It's a new day! Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; eight bells on the First Watch 12:00am
* Diana the Valkyrie reminds CC of the valkyrie-shaped hole in the US economy
CaptainCorc - You mean the withdrawal of your servers? It'll take a quarter for that to catch up.
Diana the Valkyrie - Right
CaptainCorc - It'll take all the analysts by surprise and throw us into a full blown depression.
Diana the Valkyrie - But a boost to the UK economy
CaptainCorc - The resurgance of the empire.
CaptainCorc - I can see it now.....an East India Server Complex....Hudson's Bay Routing Center...
CaptainCorc - All controlled by the shadowy figure of Diana the Valkyrie, DKOB, DG, etc etc
CaptainCorc - Don't have time to play?
Clepsydra - Baby, baby, baby you're out of time 12:19am
Diana the Valkyrie -
Diana the Valkyrie - Gerda is getting full of zombies
CaptainCorc - Gak....and what does Gerda do?
Diana the Valkyrie - crashes
CaptainCorc - Surely that wasn't her sole intended purpose?
Diana the Valkyrie - Gerda does the resonse to errors
Diana the Valkyrie - OK, she's looking a but better now
CaptainCorc - No kidding? You have a dedicated machine for that? Or is she a virtual?
CaptainCorc - Well, I'm glad she's feeling better.
Diana the Valkyrie - She's dedicated to handling all the diffferent error conditions.
Diana the Valkyrie - She also acts as font-end for the oldest news
Diana the Valkyrie - She also deals with many of the attacks
CaptainCorc - Is it possible to anticipate all of them?
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, because 99.99% are the same ones
CaptainCorc - Was Gerda the one testing that new firewall?
Diana the Valkyrie - No, the new firewall is in Watford
CaptainCorc - Ah.
CaptainCorc - Did you have a model for your network or did you follow where necessity led?
Diana the Valkyrie - I wrote a sketch on the back on an old envelope
Diana the Valkyrie - For the watford part
Diana the Valkyrie - But here, it changes every day
Diana the Valkyrie - You just plug a line into a socket, there's no big deal
Diana the Valkyrie - I heard they pay huge salaries to folks who do that
CaptainCorc - Weird, isn't it?
piro - how often is your site targeted?
Diana the Valkyrie - Several times per day
piro - wow
Diana the Valkyrie - on a quiet day
Diana the Valkyrie - I'm sure everyone gets the same
piro - do you think they normally target you as an IP number they just came across or they target Diana the valkryie personally?
Diana the Valkyrie - Some of each. The password guessing folks probably know what site they're attacking
Diana the Valkyrie - The automated hack attempts are just broadcast
* piro has done password hacks to several rip-off sites, but never to a good site like this one
piro -
Diana the Valkyrie - Unsuccessfully, of course
piro - nah, I had a PW to a couple of them
piro - I actually only used one, the rest of the sites I realized that they wernt even the effort to crack.....I joined the good one afterwords anyway
piro - Diana, has the economic downturn of the US in your opinion affected your site revenues?
Diana the Valkyrie - I don't know, Piro.
piro - well has your membership increased the same percentage as it did say a year ago?
Diana the Valkyrie - But I've made major changes to the site, that would affect membership more than the US economy
Diana the Valkyrie - To measure the effect of a factor, you need to hold other factors constant, or else know their effect quite precisely.
Diana the Valkyrie - That's why no-one knows what causes economic phenomena
piro - to be honest I dont think they would affect the membership rates that much.....they are just icing on the cake, your bottom line is not much different from last year - you are the biggest source of femuscle and strength content.
Diana the Valkyrie - I've greatly increased the Newsthumbs
Diana the Valkyrie - There's 60 or 70 million files now
Diana the Valkyrie - This time last year, Vanessa in Maryland was only just one terabyte.
Clepsydra - I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine. 12:47am
Diana the Valkyrie - Now I've got over four terabytes in Watford alone
piro - I do not know, I had first joined about 2 months after you first introduced newsthumbs, and to me the bottom line is nearly the same
piro - The biggest change that stuck to me personally was the increase of the origenal photos by tre', fistman, jabber etc.
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, that's been excellent
* piro is hoping that him starting his site during the economic downturn wont hinder the site's progress
piro - in less than a month of operation I have almost 40 members so far, although that is only from my newsgroup ad's
Diana the Valkyrie - That's very good!
edi1970 - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 12:55am)
Clepsydra - Hello, edi1970, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, edi
edi1970 - hello everyone
piro - I am still in care-free mode about it because I took almost 1000 photos of 6 different women at the WSE without spending a dime, other than my ticket and hotel room
piro - hi edi
Diana the Valkyrie - Now you need to keep doing it for five years
edi1970 - hi DIANA
edi1970 - HI PIRO
piro - yeah thats not a problem.....I still got ALOT of years
edi1970 - Piro, which is your site?
piro - http://gallery.pirophoto.com
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the Graveyard Watch 01:00am
piro - I put up a robot trap for my site so I will get on the search engines
Diana the Valkyrie - You don't need to trap them, you just need to not block them
piro - yesterday I was looking through server logs and saw something suspicious thinking someone was trying to exploit my site, turned it out was the Google bot after I whoised the IP
Diana the Valkyrie - Just give it a saucer of milk, and it'll be happy
piro - and have a shitload of META keywords
edi1970 - interesting your site PIRO Especially for the low membership fee
edi1970 -
piro - I am a poor student I dont need much......I am not counting on making much more money a month than it takes to fill up my car's gas tank, and get a couple cups of for now
edi1970 -
edi1970 - the iniziative is good
edi1970 - and than there is Diana can help you
piro - the power of a man's head (the smaller one) are amazing when they are put to use
edi1970 - .)
edi1970 -
edi1970 - yes it's true
* piro thinks Diana should sponser him to go to the Nationals in Atlanta this year
piro - :-D
piro -
Diana the Valkyrie - heh
edi1970 - i can't enter the join page of your site Piro
edi1970 - it says: impossible finding the page
piro - yeah I just saw this now
Diana the Valkyrie - Welcome to web-weaving
piro - I dont know what happens.....I corrected this problem two days ago, and thought it was a HTML typo on my part...but now it did it by itself
piro - one minute and I will fix it
Clepsydra - A stitch in time saves nine 01:19am
edi1970 - now i can enter
piro - fixed
piro - that is weird though, it keeps on changing the link to a different folder...even though I fixed it, uploaded it, and tested it to be fine....and then afterwords it mysteriusly changes
edi1970 - time for the bed, bye Piro and Diana
Clepsydra - Cheerio, edi1970, come back soon.
edi1970 - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 01:26am)
TomNine - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 01:31am)
Clepsydra - Hello, TomNine, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Clepsy jumps at T9, and puts him in a headlock, picks him up and turns him upside down
TomNine - Hello.
Diana the Valkyrie - hi
piro - bye edi
piro - hi t9
TomNine - Hmmm.
TomNine - Is this the new URL for chat? The other one still works.
Diana the Valkyrie - It does?
Diana the Valkyrie - um
TomNine - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/main/index.htm
TomNine - I see Nicole and BLU dropped in before me. The only clue that something was wrong was that I didn
TomNine - ... didn't have to log in.
piro - diana blame it on the server like I did
piro - brb
GrappleJack - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 01:46am)
Clepsydra - Hello, GrappleJack, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
GrappleJack - Hi all
TomNine - Jack, hey.
GrappleJack - What's the good word?
TomNine - "Home" is a good word. I just got back from a few days on the road.
GrappleJack - I noticed you weren't around this weekend. Was this a fun trip?
TomNine - Business, lots of driving, and a day with my dad, about as fun as I imagined.
GrappleJack - I haven't seen my folks in about two years. They're coming up to see me in Oct.
GrappleJack - With any luck, I'm going to see Anita Ramsey this Saturday.
TomNine - It's been a year and a hald or so since I last saw my dad, his health has suffered a lot. i'm glad to see he can still tend to himself at least.
Diana the Valkyrie - I heard she has a wicked scissors
TomNine - Ooh, Anita should be fun. I never met her myself, maybe some day.
GrappleJack - This will be my second visit with her. And yes she does have a very strong scissors.
TomNine - Scissors? I guess some guys are into that sort of thing.
GrappleJack - What's cool, is that even though she's got short legs, and I've got a "wide body", she's able to do a body-scissors. And it hurts like hell.
GrappleJack - Tom, you should really try it sometime.
TomNine - Can she lock her ankles?
GrappleJack - Just barely, she's able to lock them. Knowing your size, and mine, I know that I'm bigger, so it should be easier for her to "get" you.
TomNine - Most women under 5'7" or so can't even lock their ankles on a body scissors with me, but a few shorter women (like Christine Marshall) can still do them effectively.
GrappleJack - Well, you should try to meet Anita sometime. I think you'd have fun with her. She's small, but deceptively strong. I can pin her once in a while, but she makes me pay on the next fall.
TomNine - Anita has been floating around the middle of my wish-list for years now.
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting; four bells on the Graveyard Watch 02:00am
GrappleJack - Then after Anita, I'm doing some vacationing, and then in late October, Olga's coming to town.
TomNine - So, you've decided to see Olga? She should be fun, if you survive her technical skills.
GrappleJack - Yep, I expect that she can deliver a good old-fashoind ass-whooping.
TomNine - And I see your e-mail now, maybe will respond tomorrow. I have quite a backlog.
GrappleJack - No problem, catch up when you can. I don't even recall what it says.
GrappleJack - So she's really that good technically Tom?
TomNine - Unusually quiet chat tonight. Now that Diana fixed the URL problem that's no excuse.
TomNine - Yes, Olga is technically very good, certainly one of the best out there. I am sure she was holding back on me and could have had me submitting from a different hold every minute if she wanted.
Clepsydra - There's a time to live but isn't it strange that as soon as you are born you're dying. 02:07am
GrappleJack - hehe - that's what I like to hear.
M.C. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:09am)
Clepsydra - Hello, M.C., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
GrappleJack - Hi MC
M.C. - Hello good people
TomNine - The Brazilian ju-jitsu stuff doesn't really excite me, but it is an interesting way to be controlled. It's like my mind can't even understand what is going on. MC, hello.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, MC
M.C. - hello Diana, can I list something that isn't working, or would you like to relax the rest of the night ?
brooksie - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:13am)
Clepsydra - Hello, brooksie, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Brooksie, hello.
* M.C. doesn't like to get a reputation as a malcontent
GrappleJack - I've never been subjected to the ju-jitsu stuff before, so this will be a new experience for me. That combined with her strength, her age, her looks, and what I suspect to be her actual strength will make for an interesting evening.
brooksie - Hey Ho!
GrappleJack - Hi Brooksie
M.C. - hello brooksie
Diana the Valkyrie - What is it, MC?
M.C. - the contributor's lounge
GrappleJack - Hmmm... I wonder if MC stands for MalContent? (Just kidding MC)
brooksie - MC, that was very considerate of you to ask Diana if she was "off the clock" for today.
TomNine - http://slcmedia.com/sabrinastone/
brooksie - Who are you about to see, Grapple?
M.C. - geert wanted to know how many times his gallery of Nicole bass was looked at. I couldn't get into it
Diana the Valkyrie - I know, it's because I moved servers
M.C. - well it isn't really that important, brooksie
brooksie - Tell Geert it's not about the numbers.
GrappleJack - brooksie, we've been discussing Olga B. This weekend, I'm going to actually see Anita Ramsey. Olga in October.
M.C. - and Clepsy doesn't tell us the time on the 1/2 hour anymore
Clepsydra - Baby says she's mine, you know, she tells me all the time, you know, she said so. I'm in love with her and I feel fine. 02:16am
Diana the Valkyrie - The clock never stops :-)
Clepsydra - There's a time to live and a time to die 02:16am
M.C. - That too, I can live without...
brooksie - Olga is one of my faves...I'd love to see her.
M.C. - for a few days anyway
M.C. - how's things, brooksie. Haven't seen you in awhile
GrappleJack - How did you come across this link T9?
brooksie - i am being frustrated by television right now.
GrappleJack - brooksie, I have to say I'm very excited about it. More so than any other sessions I've had in a while.
brooksie - Can't blame you Grap...give a full report, ok?
TomNine - Jack, somebody e-mailed it to me. Most of the ones I get this way are crap, but this one actually has some mixed wrestling content, a pretty girl, and a site that works pretty well.
brooksie - MC, i guess we've both been away for a while. How was your trip?
M.C. - It was great , but it seems like ages ago
M.C. - will you make the FVF in Vancouver ?
GrappleJack - Have you contacted her yet T9?
brooksie - I will definitely be at FVF!
TomNine - Jack, I have no reason to contact her. I'll just add her link, already posted it on my board.
GrappleJack - brooksie, will do.
M.C. - I guess you've had a lot of small glitches because of the move - Diana
brooksie - SO Grap, I guess this is the first time we've met? What's your story?
Clepsydra - There's a time to live but isn't it strange that as soon as you are born you're dying. 02:24am
Diana the Valkyrie - That's not really a glitch. I can't do the top-twenty until after the day, so I left off installing that for a little while
GrappleJack - What would you like to know brooksie?
Diana the Valkyrie - I'd guess that most folks haven't realised I moved the server
M.C. - and the contribtors lounge
Diana the Valkyrie - ditto
M.C. - I rarely go there. It's just geert asked me to check how many times his gallery was viewed
brooksie - The usual...Where are you from, how you found the site, do you write, take pics, go to shows etc.
M.C. - were there 'important' problems as a result of the move ?
Diana the Valkyrie - Not yet
M.C. - you've had a busy month so far it seems
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, the move has been a major thing
TomNine - What goes on in the contributors' lounge? Am I missing something?
GrappleJack - Ah... I was on this site many years ago, but never did any posting or chatting. I recently e-mailed T9 after reading some stuff on his site, and he guided me back to here. I've done some stories and pics, but for my own enjoyment. Never been to a show.
M.C. - why don't you go into London and buy yourself something nice
brooksie - No, you're not Tom.
M.C. - Tom will pay for it ...
brooksie - Have you posted your stuff on this site?
Diana the Valkyrie - I have, MC
M.C. - All it is - Tom - is a list of everything that was viewed for the preceeding day. Stories, galleries and a list of from where people log on from
GrappleJack - I haven't. The stories aren't worth it (I don't write them anymore since there's so many other people writing them for me . And the pics I told the models that they were for my use only and wouldn't end up on the net.
M.C. - not another stuffed animal I hope
brooksie - I see. Maybe you could show some of them this site and get their permission.
M.C. - Occasionally I'll look up how many times my stories have been downloaded...just for curiosity
GrappleJack - None of them are anything bad, and I'm sure in most cases I could get the permission. I've thought about it.
brooksie - "anything bad"...interesting expression.
GrappleJack - So tell me about you brooksie.
GrappleJack - "bad" = "nude".
GrappleJack - hehe - I've got about 150 undeveloped pics from my last photo shoot. One of these days I'll have to get those processed.
TomNine - What's so bad about being nude? In my case, I would understand...
brooksie - I write, have a bookshelf here. I live in Victoria, BC. Professionally, I do a bunch of different stuff in the arts field, mostly music. I also perform, teach and am curently doing my certification as a Personal Trainer.
GrappleJack - But there's tons of nude T9 pictures out on the net...
M.C. - why not plug your CD brooksie
GrappleJack - Cool, I'm planning a vacation out to Vancouver and Victoria next year. I hear it's beautiful out that way.
brooksie - www.mandolirium.com
brooksie - Extremely beautiful, yes. Victoria more so than Vancouver, though.
M.C. - have you heard from rainerk, brooksie ?
M.C. - He's making his way towards your part of the world
brooksie - No. He was going to get in touch with Sheila and let me know whne he was in Vancouver.
GrappleJack - I just checked out the CD-site. Pretty awesome.
brooksie -
M.C. - he's planning to be there for the FVF
Diana the Valkyrie - GJ, tell them it's for this site, many of them would be keen on the idea
brooksie - Good! he wasn't sure last time I stalked with him.
Clepsydra - Time it waits for no man my future it is revealed 02:43am
M.C. - Diana - I hope you're not fixing this at 2:45 a.m.
GrappleJack - I'm just checking out your story gallery too, I know I've already read some of them. Very nice.
GrappleJack - So, brooksie, how did you find this wonderful site?
M.C. - you could have read all of mine by this time
brooksie - Thanks. I try. MC has some nice stories too.
M.C. - @tom
* M.C. thanks brooksie for the advert
TomNine - What did I say?
brooksie - I started seeing that just about every site I looked at when I first got on the net was linked to this one, so I had to check it out.
M.C. - it was the smirk on your face, Tom
GrappleJack - MC, under what name are your stories?
brooksie - Tom? Is he still here? (oh, there he is)
M.C. - something very profound...M.C.
GrappleJack - It would help if I could learn the alphabet.
M.C. - Sooner or later I suppose everybody in our "subculture" will find their way here
brooksie - Like flies to a spider's web, MC.
T.K.O - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:51am)
Clepsydra - Hello, T.K.O, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
brooksie -
T.K.O - hello Diana the Valkyrie and GrappleJack and M.C. and TomNine and brooksie
GrappleJack - MC, I have read some of these as well, and have enjoyed them. Even thought I wasn't a member for several years, I regularly checked the "new stories" page and read lots of them over the years.
T.K.O - Colour changed
TomNine - Kidd, hey.
GrappleJack - Hi TKO
brooksie - Hi Kidd!
M.C. - there's a thread on FBB pay sites on the 'female muscle' message board if you're interested
GrappleJack - MC, true enough. This does seem to be "the" place for us.
M.C. - Hi T.K.O...our most prolific writer
T.K.O - a bowl of GrappleJacks in the morning does your breakfast good!!!
GrappleJack -
* T.K.O has another that should go up tomorrow M.C.
brooksie - He's stil got a ways to go to catch GW. That guy's catalogue is huge!
T.K.O - GW? he's on the bookkshelves ?
M.C. - brooksie, LH art bought one of your stories, didn't they ?
brooksie - Yes MC.
Diana the Valkyrie - Night, folks
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Diana the Valkyrie, come back soon.
Diana the Valkyrie - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:55am)
Clepsydra - There's a puff of orange smoke, and Hey Presto!
T.K.O - gd-nite Diana
M.C. - LILA TOV Diana
brooksie - I haven't seen it yet. It's supposed to be in their Fall catalogue.
T.K.O - brooksie, are your stories protected by copyright?
GrappleJack - Well guys, I gotta run. Nice to meet you brooksie.
brooksie - No Kidd, I haven't bothered.
M.C. - are there people that steal other people's stories T.K.O. ?
brooksie - Same here, Grap.
T.K.O - pleasure writers
M.C. - Is nothing sacred anymore
brooksie - I heard Morphinman got pinched for it.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, GrappleJack, come back soon.
GrappleJack - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:58am)
M.C. - I have to go to work, bye everyone
Clepsydra - Cheerio, M.C., come back soon.
M.C. - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 02:58am)
T.K.O - Morphinman stoled stories
brooksie - See you MC.
T.K.O - bye M.C.
brooksie - Just one, that I know of.
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; six bells on the Graveyard Watch 03:00am
* yeah T.K.O is sacred when two girls beat the crap out of some hapless boy.
T.K.O -
* T.K.O 's stories that is.
jackday - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:01am)
Clepsydra - Hello, jackday, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
jackday - good evening everyone
T.K.O - tomorrow's story is a first of mine that involved quite a bit of sex, more than the norm.
T.K.O - hello jackday
brooksie - Hi jack!
jackday - Hello T.K.O.
jackday - Hi Brooksie!
T.K.O - yet a guy still gets his ass kicked..
jackday - T.K.O, that's my type of reading, man
T.K.O - where are GW's stories, brooksie?
T.K.O - the story is titled, " Vengence unbecomes her. "
jackday - Great title!
brooksie - He's got a shelf, Kidd.
T.K.O - i would post the story here, but the format of it would run a few sentences off to the right of the screen.
T.K.O - he go by just, GW ?
jackday - man, I miss that stuff ...sort of when on hiatus with it
brooksie - yup!
T.K.O - i like the young girl beat em up, older guy, or a boy of the same age, type of story..
T.K.O - i liked one of brooksie's, where a gal pounded this boy on a beach, in a wrestling match, he was on her part of the beach, and she whupped him, and ran him off.. nice brooksie..
jackday - brooksie, you write stories also?
brooksie - Thanks, Kidd.
TomNine - Jack, hello.
T.K.O - damn, if that would only happen to me..
brooksie - Yes jack, I have a bookshelf here as well.
TomNine - Colour changed
jackday - Hey T9! Well, I have to look at the Library sometime tonight and check out the stories
* brooksie hands T9 a napkin to wipe off the beandip.
T.K.O - hello Tom, i guess you did say hello, but i then forgot you were here,,
PJ - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:12am)
Clepsydra - Hello, PJ, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - PJ, hello.
T.K.O - hello PJparty?
T.K.O -
brooksie - Hi PJ.
PJ - hi
jackday - HI PJ
PJ - no party
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
T.K.O - ok PJ, you must live a boring life then.. J/K
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from brooksie
PJ - its monday night........who the F is partying besides some Denver and Giants fans?
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
T.K.O - and some Seattle fan..
T.K.O - from the previous Sunday's game against the Browns.
brooksie - I have dinner to attend to...catch you all later!
* bye brooksie, T.K.O awaits his cast in a brooksie story.
PJ - well Im a Jets fan.......so there will be no partying here until they get a win
jackday - There are no parties in Oakland, unless it's a witch hunt for Replacement Officials
Clepsydra - Cheerio, brooksie, come back soon.
brooksie - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:19am)
PJ - you got the win though JD
jackday - Well, I live in St. Louis...so I got two wins since I'm a Missourian
T.K.O - well i think i will go to the bookshelf, and check out a couple, bbl cya Clepsydra and PJ and TomNine and jackday .
Clepsydra - Cheerio, T.K.O, come back soon.
T.K.O - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:21am)
jackday - Speaking of St. Louis, Olga is coming her in October
TomNine - Olga is a busy girl.
jackday - Still debating on getting a match with her...it's been so long
TomNine - I'm gonna head to bed, goodnight.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, TomNine, come back soon.
TomNine - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:25am)
Clepsydra - Off to push the prices up some more
T.K.O - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:25am)
Clepsydra - Hello, T.K.O, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
jackday - welcome back
T.K.O - Ha, GW, and I are running to , in the category of total stories on the shelves..
jackday - cool
jackday - you guys are writing like mad
T.K.O - love it, i don't read my stories, they don't turn me on, only when writing them does that happen..
T.K.O - though i may read one when it first gets posted.
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting; seven bells on the Graveyard Watch 03:30am
T.K.O - Clepsy's a ting-ting..
T.K.O - there i can imagine if Clepsydra was a real woman she would be kicking my ass about right now for that one... lol
Clepsydra -
T.K.O - well i think i will go, Shenmue awaits.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, T.K.O, come back soon.
T.K.O - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 03:34am)
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; eight bells on the Graveyard Watch 04:00am
skip - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 04:23am)
Clepsydra - Hello, skip, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
MadScientist - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 04:25am)
Clepsydra - Hello, MadScientist, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - It's the angry or insane Seeker after Truth
MadScientist - Colour changed
Clepsydra - Ting; one bell on the Morning Watch 04:30am
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 04:39am)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
-jabber - Colour changed
-jabber - Oh wait that's MadS' color...
-jabber - Colour changed
MadScientist - Colour changed
MadScientist - Skip won't be needing this one.
-jabber - @ MadS!
-jabber - Well, came back from the Great White North last night...
MadScientist - How did Sheila do?
-jabber - 8th in the HW, MadS...
MadScientist - Too ripped?
-jabber - No, too Canadian - - she did exactly what the judges asked for - I thought she probably should've been in the top 5 (4th or 5th maybe). I agreed with their winner though - less insane judging than usual
-jabber - ahem
MadScientist - Got a pic of the winner handy?
-jabber - No MadS I don't - those pics aren't sorted out yet - not even close..
MadScientist - No prob
-jabber - I think a) PJ's mad at me, and b) that skip skipped out on us
MadScientist - He couldn't wait 5 minutes for me to enter.
-jabber - 5 minutes?
MadScientist - That was how long it took for me to log on after he had already done so.
MadScientist - Damn mouse keeps acting up.
-jabber - Oh, I told PJ I said I should've bet him about his prediction that Colette would be the next new Pro...
MadScientist - Every time I clean it out, more friggn' hair and dirt collecs. Then it doesn't work properly.
Clepsydra - A stitch in time saves nine 04:54am
-jabber - What is this 4:54am shit? It's 10:54pm where I am! sheesh!
MadScientist - I didn't realize that Colette was competing. what show was it, and how did she place?
-jabber - The IFBB North Americans in Toronto, she placed 2nd in the HW.
MadScientist - Its 11:55 in New York.
MadScientist - Now, if Diana were a clever programer, each of us would see the right time for his/her area.
Clepsydra - There's a time and a place for everything 04:55am
-jabber - MadS, DtV's an insecure hack, not a clever programmer (take THAT you old archive reader you )
MadScientist - Then PJ was "right", she did do well.
-jabber - No, MadS, PJ said she'd be the next new Pro - he was incorrect - I agree she did "well" and looked great...
MadScientist - Close enough, from MY point of view. But I suppose not from Colette's. Oh well...
* -jabber invites MadS to a game of horseshoes...
MadScientist -
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the Morning Watch 05:00am
skip - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 05:00am)
Clepsydra - Hello, skip, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
-jabber - wb skip...
skip - ok, ok...i took off quickly, but i got lonely quickly
Everyone was wrong - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 05:00am)
Clepsydra - Hello, Everyone was wrong, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Everyone was wrong - Colour changed
MadScientist - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/col2_12.jpg
skip - hey jab, mad
Everyone was wrong - Greetings, Diana...hello, everyone else. Actually, at the time all the prognosticating was going on, it was Pam Kusar who was becoming the newest American pro. Whoops.
Clepsydra - When it's time to meet the maker 05:01am
MadScientist - I like this shot. True the photographic quality ain't so hot, and yellow isn't quite right.
MadScientist - But the dress is cut to the right length, and the pose is enticing. Seeing the fullness of her thighs makes me horny.
skip - wow - great shoulders
Clepsydra - MadScientist, you have a new Private message from -jabber
MadScientist - Pam must be an old geezer. I recall seeing her compete years ago on MuscleSport USA.
MadScientist - Skip, her upper body is her forte. But, unlike what Sheila was claiming, she DOES have legs.
skip - how did collette look in toronto - i haven't seen pics yet
Bert - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 05:03am)
Clepsydra - Hello, Bert, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Bert - Colour changed
Bert - Hello everyone
-jabber - The newest Pro is Lisa Aukland, winner of the HW and overall North Americans - I've no idea where the Kusar comment is coming from...
-jabber - Bert, Ginny's not here - GET OUT! (just kidding dude)...
MadScientist - Well, then a memory failure.
MadScientist - Lisa Aukland has some nice thighs too.
-jabber - Upper body looked great skip - as usual... - right MadS, Ms. Aukland's upper to lower body balance was superior.
MadScientist - Yeah, I am confusing Pam with someone else. Actually a female wrestler.
Bert - Okay Jabber, just say hello before work
-jabber - No MadS, your comment wasn't the confused one.
skip - any pics posted yet anywhere of the toronto show?
-jabber - skip the damn show was just two days ago - and I got into town late last night due to a horribly delayed flight - patience - sheesh!
skip - i don't mean just you, jab! you do have competition, you know
MadScientist - Not that I know of.
Everyone was wrong - Ironman.com and Genex9.com are usually the first with contest pics..
Everyone was wrong - http://femsport.com/nas-0901.html
skip - genex is down today - guess he's updating
-jabber - Tre' who was that blond dweeb with the glasses sitting to the left of you at the show?
Everyone was wrong - Jab - the little photographer guy? Why that's Joe "not the boxer" Frazier!
Tre': just me - Nickname change, Everyone was wrong is now known as Tre': just me
-jabber - Yes, Tre' - BTW no "figure" results?
Tre': just me - Jabber - It's hard to hide my dislike for the figure competition. Celeste looked magnificent, but I think the present figure format really cheapens the efforts she's put into her physique development (you'll see me say this again and again). If I wanted to see a pageant, I'd look elsewhere.
skip - maybe it's just the perspective, but that amanda dunbar's arms look huge on the femsport site
Willy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 05:15am)
Clepsydra - Hello, Willy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Willy - Hey everyone!
skip - http://femsport.com/a-dunbar/aduna016fe.jpg
Tre': just me - He lives!!! Willy - talk to me, bro - how on earth have you been? I was in Vancouver last month, but alas, no Willy.
* Willy has been all over the continent, mostly in remote places, and now I'm BACK! :-)
MadScientist - Yo Willy
Clepsydra - Willy, you have a new Private message from Tre': just me
Willy - Yo
-jabber - I have no idea who was who in the figure show. Willy hello...
MadScientist - Another fitness contest without the routines?
skip - hey willy
-jabber - Willy, hello, I set foot in your great Country this past weekend...
Clepsydra - Tre': just me, you have a new Private message from Willy
-jabber - please remove one of the "Willy hello's", thanks
MadScientist - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/Colette_Nelson_01b.JPG
Willy - I guess the customs guys screwed up again
MadScientist - From last years Nationals. I think she was middleweight then.
Willy - any pic of Colette Nelson is a good pic
-jabber - Willy I did get hassled because some idiot in the States said I was a child pornographer...
Clepsydra - Tre': just me, you have a new Private message from Willy
Clepsydra - Hi
excuse me - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 12:29pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, excuse me, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
excuse me - this is odd.......
Clepsydra - Cheerio, excuse me, come back soon.
excuse me - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 12:29pm)
Clepsydra - Ting; one bell on the Afternoon Watch 12:30pm
M.C. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 12:45pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, M.C., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
* M.C. is glad to see the chatroom is working now
Diana the Valkyrie - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 12:45pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Diana the Valkyrie, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - There's a puff of green smoke, and a Valkyrie appears. Cough splutter cough cough.
Diana the Valkyrie - yo
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, I found the direct problem
M.C. - was there a problem, or were you just working on it
Diana the Valkyrie - A directory got it's permissions changed
M.C. - when you're faced with a problem which your not familiar with, where do you start
Diana the Valkyrie - With the symptoms
Diana the Valkyrie - What could have caused those symptoms?
M.C. - is there a logical path you follow ?
Diana the Valkyrie - No
M.C. - the problem that occured today, had something similar happened before or did you start from scratch
Diana the Valkyrie - Most problems, you just stare at them until the answer comes
Diana the Valkyrie - I started from scratch, but it did happen once before, I think, a couple of years ago
Diana the Valkyrie - The symptom was easy, the error message said it couldn't access something
M.C. - after a server change
Diana the Valkyrie - I don't think it was the server change that caused it
M.C. - The servers in England now are there permanently
Diana the Valkyrie - I hope so
Diana the Valkyrie - Another blow to the US economy
Diana the Valkyrie -
M.C. - they'll survive
M.C. - they survived when you burned Washington to the ground, they'll survive this
Diana the Valkyrie - There's be hell to pay when PW finds out
M.C. - Am I keeping you from something important ?
Diana the Valkyrie - No, I'm fine
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the Afternoon Watch 1:00pm
M.C. - yesterday Gaily popped in for a minute
Diana the Valkyrie - She's no longer Chatter One
M.C. - Pam is, last month Jabber had over 10,000. That's probably a record
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, jabber's found what he's good at
M.C. - no comment
* M.C. says with an evil smile
M.C. - whatever happened to George
M.C. - or Mark
Diana the Valkyrie - dunno, dunno
M.C. - you wouldn't tell me even if you did
Diana the Valkyrie - Well, I might. They might have announced something
Diana the Valkyrie - Mark moved into a new flat, remember?
M.C. - theoretical question
Diana the Valkyrie - My guess is, he's having a romance
Diana the Valkyrie - He was living at home before, which made that difficult
Diana the Valkyrie - Remember he met an Irish girl while on holiday
M.C. - if you recieved information from a relative that one of the regular chatters had passed away, would you tell us ?
Diana the Valkyrie - I don't know, that hasn't happened
Diana the Valkyrie - net-death is a lot more common - that's when somoene's computer breaks for a while
M.C. - it might some day. Do you see yourself doing this in ten years ?
Diana the Valkyrie - I can't imagine that a relative would tell me that a chatter died
Diana the Valkyrie - This is the internet, one year is a very long time
M.C. - they'd see it on the credit card, he was being billed each month
Geert - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 1:11pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Geert, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Geert - hey hey Diana, MC
M.C. - hello geert
Geert - I spoke with George on the phone 3 weeks ago or so
M.C. - you shouldn't let people get to you here, geert
Diana the Valkyrie - And is he alive?
Diana the Valkyrie - Someone got to Geert?
Geert - and now and then I mail Mr Poetry
M.C. - first time geert ever got flustered so far as I know
Clepsydra - Time it waits for no man my future it is revealed 1:13pm
Geert - ha thats not really the case MC I really dont care well George said he wasnt dead Diana
Diana the Valkyrie - By who?
Geert - flustered?
Geert - Galiy mailed me MC and she did like thepicture you' ve made LPD loved it too
Geert - I did change a few things
Geert - you allready napping MC?
Geert - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/dsc00507.JPG
Geert - well its getting toooo BLUE for my eyes in here
Diana the Valkyrie - Blue?
Geert - greetings Diana MC
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Geert, come back soon.
Geert - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 1:21pm)
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting; three bells on the Afternoon Watch 1:30pm
M.C. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 1:46pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, M.C., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
M.C. - Power outage
M.C. - now I'm gonna take my nap...
Clepsydra - Cheerio, M.C., come back soon.
M.C. - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 1:49pm)
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting; four bells on the Afternoon Watch 2:00pm
tussler - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 2:06pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, tussler, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, tussler, come back soon.
tussler - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 2:06pm)
biceguy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 2:23pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, biceguy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
M.C. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 2:28pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, M.C., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
M.C. - Anybody watching the news ?
M.C. - Two planes crashed into the Twin towers in New York
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting; five bells on the Afternoon Watch 2:30pm
M.C. - There's a fire in the Pentagon also
M.C. - now they're saying a plane crashed into the Pentagon
M.C. - The FAA has suspended all air travel in the United States !!!
M.C. - This is really happening people
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; six bells on the Afternoon Watch 3:00pm
M.C. - This is scary
M.C. - one of the twin towers has collapsed
Tre': struck - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:07pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Tre': struck, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Tre': struck - Colour changed
M.C. - hello Tre
M.C. - It's judgement day
Tre': struck - You have CNN there? All of our airports are shut down...we're going to war. Not sure against whom just yet, but we're going to war. There will be reprisal from the U.S. government, I assure you. The guilty will not go unpunished - they will pay with their lives, the lives of their families, and the lives of their families' friends. We will not rest until their entire civilization has been erased.
Tre': struck - My sadness is complicated by my anger...rapid retaliation is a must.
M.C. - who are "they"
M.C. - they just got a report of an explosion on Capitol Hill in D.C.
M.C. - This was a well coordinated attack
Geert - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:14pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Geert, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
M.C. - A 767 jet was hijacked from Boston
M.C. - watching the news Geert ?
Tre': struck - MC - we will identify, locate, try, and execute those responsible
Geert - my goodness what they doing? they say Palestina is responsible for it
M.C. - noboby haas claimed responsibility for it yet
Tre': struck - no, I think ben Laden
Geert - now I listen to the radio MC, they said Palestian did
M.C. - turn on your T.V....it's really scary
Geert - but its all fresh news nobodys knows excactly what is happening
M.C. - all airports in the United States have been shut down
M.C. - Welcome to the 21st century people
Geert - I never saw something like this I allready watched MC , I dont want to that Eva sees all this
Xander - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:19pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Xander, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Templar for a Second - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:19pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Templar for a Second, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Xander - Hello ...
M.C. - This is going to be one of those days that you will remember for the rest of your lives
Geert - those who are responsible for this had to pay real bad thats for sure!!!!!!!!
Templar for a Second - Hi All...hell of a day..
Xander - My god...
Xander - (can't find any good words right now)
Tre': struck - Palestinians aren't this crazy, I wouldn't think - they have too many friends here. Hi Temp - I love you, man. Are you going to go on active duty if we go to war? I'm thinking about it.
Tre': struck - Geert - everyone will see this.....that is their intent
Xander - I don't know yet, Tre...
Geert - whos intent Tre?
Tre': struck - I don't know who or how, but they will pay
M.C. - Now they say that a commercial jet hit the Pentagon
Xander - Only a few crazy ones are needed...Paestinians themselves are nice people, as far as I have seen (I have been at refugee camps in Lebanon), but the fanatics are always crazy, no matter what nationality, religion, etc
Socrates - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:21pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Socrates, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Socrates, himself, is particularly missed
Xander - Hi Soc
Socrates - hi all
M.C. - hello soc
Geert - hi socrates
Templar for a Second - Hey, Tre'....geez, a 767 hit the world trade center?!! I think it's retilattion for Israels hardline in palestine
Geert - Colour changed
Templar for a Second - Not going to Tre', I'm out, but I know a few friends who will be..
Socrates - Tre, I talked to the women that run this TV women's sports show today
Xander - Soc, did you watch TV?
Socrates - I she said she would love to cover our event but they are doing one in that category already - guess about whom?
Templar for a Second - Xander- I think they fanatics physically did it, but the people who planned it, they are the most dangerous
Geert - those who did it made the biggest mistake OF THEIR LIVES
Socrates - yes Xander, I see the crash
Tre': struck - Temp - these are the times which try men's souls....I'm fully prepared to serve my country in any way possible
Xander - Yes Temp, that millionaire, (whats his name) who finances stuff like this...It's scary that the guy hasnt been caught yet
Templar for a Second - as am I, tre'...that sucks for their families..
Xander - Geert, thwey are dead already...I bet those crazy ones died with a smile on their face
Geert - its all sooo sick
M.C. - All international flights into the U.S. are being rerouted to Canada
Templar for a Second - I'll call my friend, in Naval Intelligences, and see what's up..
Xander - And the ones who planned it would still be proud when getting caught
Tre': struck - Soc - I'm listening (but forgive me for being distracted right now)
Xander - Yes, Geert
Templar for a Second - That's why you make them disappear...quietly, but gone...no martyrs to the cause
Templar for a Second - That's why you make them disappear...quietly, but gone...no martyrs to the cause
Socrates - I could not believe it when i heard it on radio - but then i saw it on tv
Geert - how soon will they find out who is resposible?
Xander - (In Isreal the mentio0ning of the Palestinian Orgasation isn't taken seriously...It's a tiny organisation)
Templar for a Second - Could be a while...
Socrates - Tre, I have been bumped for Christine Envall - they are covering her at the Jan Tana - delayed story
Xander - I think they will find out soon!....Some organisation is gonna say it's them and they know all too well who the people are behind all terrorist organizations
Templar for a Second - Well, we should go after them hard!!
M.C. - now the second tower is falling down
Tre': struck - Soc - hardly the same category - did you explain that part? Have her come tape it - if they decide not to use the footage, oh well
Geert - the saddest thing about this is all those innocent people
Xander - Yep, it has fallen down MC...And other buildings have been attacked as well
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting; seven bells on the Afternoon Watch 3:30pm
Templar for a Second - That is the saddest part...
Xander - I cant even describe my feelings!
Geert - I cant watch tele MC Eva is at home
Xander - two towers down...unreal...oh no...
Geert - I am listen t the radio they really dont know who is resposible so far , they just said
Xander - it seems that the tales about an attack on Capitol Hill arent true...Phew...
Socrates - TRe, i explained it was a strength challenge and she was genuinely interested - said to call her back next Tuesday to see what we can do in the future
Templar for a Second - George W has to step up and take control of the situation...
M.C. - you'll be seeing it on the news enough, geert
Xander - Py god the smoke now because of those 2 towers...
Xander - Py=my
Geert - this is so weird
edi1970 - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:33pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, edi1970, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
edi1970 - hello everyone
Xander - Hi edi
Templar for a Second - It's got to be Ossama Bin....these targets...he tried once for the trade center...and the symbol of US military...
M.C. - hi edi1970
Geert - hi edi
Tre': struck - Car bomb at the State Dept...
edi1970 - hi Xander
edi1970 - what's happened?
Xander - That's the smoke there?...Not a third plane then?
M.C. - 50,000 people work in the world trade center
edi1970 - hi GEERT M.C. TRE TEMPLAR
Templar for a Second - EDI, both the World Trade Center in New York, and the Pentagon in Washington have been crashed into with planes by terrorists
edi1970 - noooooo
Tre': struck - Soc - bullshit - Oct 21 is future enough. Either she does it or she doesn't but don't even waste time dicking around with her. Get your athletes, get your sponsors, get your fans. We're teaming up with a couple of nice groups to produce 3 shows in Canada next year, plus Diana is helping with the one CP is organizing in Europe in 2002. This my concern - if the woman is in, she's in, but if she's not, screw it.
Clepsydra - When I find myself in times of trouble, 3:36pm
Xander - OK...So the third plane is there...Thanks for clearing that one up, Tre...
Templar for a Second - Yes, both towers of the WTC are gone...pentagon still burning
Socrates - tre, i just thinks she wants me for my body only
edi1970 - it is unreal!
Tre': struck - a downed plane somewhere in Pennsylvania?
Templar for a Second - women...always treating us guys like pieces of meat!!
edi1970 - the hearth of the USA
Templar for a Second - In PA...where abouts?
Geert - bye akk
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Geert, come back soon.
Geert - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:38pm)
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from Socrates
Socrates - cya Geert
Templar for a Second - cya geert
M.C. - bye geert
Tre': struck - MC - gosh, I knew there were 1000s, had no idea it was that many. But how does a 767 get hijacked without the passengers going apeshit and attacking the hijackers? This is all too surreal.
Templar for a Second - I'm listening to the news...we should find these people and kill them...
Xander - I guess they never told what they were gonna do, Tre...People were just fearing to get shot and not expecting something like this...
Clepsydra - Socrates, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Socrates - tre. 1000's of what?
Templar for a Second - it's brutal, but what choice to we have?
Tre': struck - Soc - 50,000 people work in the WTC
M.C. - worked...
Socrates - i see, and that many were there at the time?
Templar for a Second - Geez, I wonder what the death toll is going to end up as?
Tre': struck - This is the saddest day in American history.
stacy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:44pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, stacy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Xander - It could even be that people in the plane didnt know anything...That the terrorists just took control of the plane, flying it, all witout the other passengers having seen anything...
Xander - Hi stacy
Templar for a Second - hey Stacy!
Socrates - hello Stacy
edi1970 - hi Stacy
M.C. - It'll be years before life will return to normal
Tre': struck - Soc - bodycounts and injuries...no one has any clue about that. We're now just trying to determine what else will happen - is it all done, has it played out? We do not know. Stacy - what's going on in PA, hon...we hear rumors of a downed plane there
Xander - It's also a sad day for all countries outside the US, Tre!...We are with you!
Templar for a Second - It's sad, and so much of a waste..
M.C. - now they say another plane might be on it's way to the Pentagon
Tre': struck - Thank you, Xander.
Xander - I hope not!
Templar for a Second - It will never make it, MC, they're ready for it now
M.C. - if you're a fighter piolet and you get the order to shoot down that plane, would you ?
Tre': struck - How could they justify shooting down a passenger plane, though? It's a lose-lose
Templar for a Second - it would be tough Tre', no doubt
M.C. - there are f-16's waiting for it
Templar for a Second - That's the danger..this is so volitaile a situation, that mistakes could be made just for the sheer stress of the situation
M.C. - September 11th 2001, a day that will live in infamy
RobW_Video - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:49pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, RobW_Video, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
RobW_Video - This ain't good.
Xander - IHi Rob
Templar for a Second - Hi Rob
Socrates - hi Rob
Tre': struck - a 767 did go down in western Pennsylvania...about 80 miles SE of Pittsburgh
Xander - There is a F16 after the plane that is on its way to the Penthagon
Socrates - Rob, where are you from?
Tre': struck - 747, my mistake
Templar for a Second - Aarafat has sent his condolences on behalf of the Palestinian people
Tre': struck - This is the saddest day in the history of the world...
Templar for a Second - it is tre..
Xander - (we arent hearing anything yet about the Pennsylvania one)
Pan - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:52pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Pan, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Xander - Hi Pan
RobW_Video - Soc: Brisbane.
Pan - Colour changed
Templar for a Second - All those people, dead...for what?
Templar for a Second - Hi Pan
Socrates - so you are back Rob - good to see you
RobW_Video - So, how many people work in a four-block radius of the WTC...
Pan - Hi people
Xander - With all that security on airports, should we now go further?...People should undress completely before getting on planes, no suitcases allowed near them in the planes, etc?
Clepsydra - RobW_Video, you have a new Private message from Socrates
Templar for a Second - No car bomb at the state dept..is what's being reported
Pan - I feel like I want to talk about this, but I don't know what to say yet.
Socrates - hi Pan
Templar for a Second - It's a tough thing...it's hard to imagine how big this is...
M.C. - what can you say?
RobW_Video - aaaargh, I've gotta go...
Clepsydra - Cheerio, RobW_Video, come back soon.
RobW_Video - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:55pm)
Pan - I'm scared
Socrates - read your PM Rob
Templar for a Second - see ya rob
Templar for a Second - see ya rob
M.C. - it's overwhelming
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:55pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
Templar for a Second - it is..
Templar for a Second - Hey Jabber
-jabber - I understand you Pan - it takes a LOT to stun/horrify me - and I am both.
M.C. - hello jabber
Socrates - i wonder how it will pan out in the next few days - anything could happen
Pan - Hi, jab
Socrates - hi jabber
Templar for a Second - You're right about that Pan!!
Socrates - Colour changed
Tre': struck - Pan - I'm thankful to be alive right now. I'm more thankful than angry, but far more angry than sad right now.
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar for a Second
Tre': struck - Hey Jabber.
Xander - Hi Jabber
-jabber - Who's closest to NYC right now? Hello folks - where are you now Tre'???
Templar for a Second - It's tough, Tre', it's just so messsed up!!
Pan - If indeed there was a crash near Pittsburgh, I feel less at-ease than ever. That's under 3 hrs. away from us.
Xander - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 3:58pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Xander, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Xander - Hmmm..My window dissapeared
Tre': struck - Jabber - I just did get out of Canada yesterday, so I'm thankful for that. I'm in Phoenix, but do not feel safe. The kid is at school, but I'm monitoring as many news sources as possible right now.
-jabber - Pan that Pittsburgh crash "may" not have been related - they're not sure...
Xander - I have an online friend that works somewhere on Manhatten...
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Socrates
-jabber - I'm thinking of shit-canning my trip to Florida next week - or driving (seriously)...
Tre': struck - scenes from the fallout zone...Colette Nelson lives down there
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; eight bells on the Afternoon Watch 4:00pm
Pan - Anybody get in touch with Boomer yet?
Xander - Do that, Jabber...Don't fly...I am not gonna fly either...Not for quite some time now...
Clepsydra - There's a time and a place for everything 4:00pm
Templar for a Second - Massive, just massive...that is all I can say...
Clepsydra - Socrates, you have a new Private message from -jabber
M.C. - where does boomer work in NYC ?
Tre': struck - FistMan lives at 2nd Ave, over on the east side - he works up near Park Ave, I believe
-jabber - I've emailed Colette Tre' - I'm thinking of calling her - have you?
Pan - wondering that myself, MC.
Socrates - i think boomer is far enough away
Templar for a Second - I hope they're all right...
Tre': struck - The National Guard has been called out - they'll be on duty by the afternoon
-jabber - "all the lines are busy" - I just tried calling Saka...
Diana the Valkyrie - Yow, I've just heard about it
Tre': struck - Jabber - haven't called yet...I'm thinking it may be best to leave those lines open right now, I don't know
Pan - in any other situation, there'd have been a declaration of war. But that's going to be impossible.
Xander - Hi Diana...
Pan - Hi, Diana
Templar for a Second - Redstone Arsenal here, where Marshall Space flight center is, and the missle program, has just been closed and put on alert
Tre': struck - Saka lives in Chelsea? Like 14th or something? I can't recall....but maybe she's moved
M.C. - Hello Diana, good thing you moved your servers
Xander - Gotto leave...What seemed to become a nice day has turned into something horrible...Condolences to all...Bye...
Diana the Valkyrie - Pan, against who?
-jabber - I've heard from Saka by email - she and her family is fine - but stunned/horrified like me - said all cell phone service is down.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Xander, come back soon.
Xander - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:03pm)
Tre': struck - Pan - there will have to be, but at this moment, rescue efforts take priority...
Socrates - cya later Xander
-jabber - Thank you Xander, take care...
Pan - Diana, like I said, that's going to be impossible.
Tre': struck - thanks, Jabber - that's good news
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar for a Second
Pan - jabber, you're at home now?
Templar for a Second - God, NYC must be a madhouse right now!!
-jabber - Who else lives/works in NY - I've also emailed PJ - and I told you Colette and Saka. Yes Pan, I "was" trying to work from home - not much "work" being accomplished now though...
Diana the Valkyrie - Do we know who's claiming responsibility?
Templar for a Second - No one has DTV...
M.C. - what about Mad Scientist ?
Tre': struck - our in-the-city people are Fist, Colette, Sake, PJ (works there), and that's all I can think of at the moment, but I'm sure there are others. Oh, E-dog as well as Steve & Rowena from Awefilms and Vinny, too. David Annand works in the city as well...not far from where Colette lives down in the west Village.
Stu - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:07pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Stu, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Someone give up a chair, it's the Official Chatroom Geezer
Stu - Colour changed
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Stu
-jabber - He's in Long Island MC and possibly luckily out of work - not sure if he's "currently" in Long Island - I'll email him too - and Annand and Scibelli...
Stu - Hi Diana!
Socrates - hi Stu
M.C. - hello stu
Pan - ABC news reported a single claimant, but they're reluctant to make anything public just yet. Hoaxes will abound.
Pan - Hi, Stu
-jabber - Stu, hello sir...
biceguy - hey i am hear in texas and i just heard the news that the towers now have been completely destoryed
Templar for a Second - They also say a single plane is unaccounted for out there...
Stu - About to duplicate Jabber's effort with an email to Saka, Joan Wise, my brother, etc., before I head for home. Home's about 10 miles or so from the Pentagon, 1/2way between Dulles and National airports
Stu - Hi Soc, Jabber
Tre': struck - The first plane that went down in PA - the 747 - may have been downed on purpose by the pilot in order to limit the loss of life as best he could
-jabber - niceguy, hello - I'd strongly suggest do NOT go to the Bank of America Tower downtown in Dallas - just in case...
-jabber - Ah yes Stu - I wasn't thinking about close to DC also - how far's Hiram from the Pentagon? I was mainly thinking about NYC as that loss of life/tragedy unfortunately is more shocking right now.
Templar for a Second - If that was the case, brave piolt
Pan - Tre, where'd you get that info from?
Willy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:11pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Willy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Willy - Hey everyone!
Pan - Hi, Willy
Stu - Jabber, I don't know where Hiram actually works...he's got a large territory, but he lives further out of the city in VA than I do
Templar for a Second - hey willy
Willy - HOLY CRAP! just flipped on CNN!!
M.C. - where does Mike B. work ?
Socrates - bye for now folks - best wishes to those in NY
Pan - bye, Soc
Willy - bye Soc,
Diana the Valkyrie - Bye, Soc
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Socrates, come back soon.
Socrates - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:13pm)
Clepsydra - A lovely little thinker
Templar for a Second - ee ya Soc
Willy - CNN looks like something out of a Tom Clancy novel....
Tre': struck - Pan - the plane definitely crashed...perhaps the pilot had to make the most difficult choice of his life - the plane was bound for NYC
-jabber - Thank you Socrates, take care.
Trace - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:14pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Trace, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Willy - Hey Trace,
-jabber - Tre', I'm not hearing anything about the PA crash - why not go to a different airport???
Templar for a Second - Hi Trtace
Trace - Hey everyone
Pan - aha, Tre, that's the plane they were talking about then. F-16s were waiting for it.
-jabber - Trace, hello - thanks Stu I've emailed Hiram, too - and phone calls are now out - for various reasons.
Trace - hopefully everyone is ok here
Tre': struck - I don't know who...apparently a denial from Bin Laden's close folks? But then a group of radical Algerians, perhaps. Ok, that settles it - Africa must be destroyed.
Templar for a Second - Evidently, there were heavy, heavy causalties at the pentagon
Pan - Hi, Trace
Stu - MikeB works in Conn. I believe, MC
Willy - HOLY CRAP!
Diana the Valkyrie - Can you rule out it being someone from the US did it?
M.C. - how can a fighter pilot live wuith himself after he shoots down a civilian aircraft ?
Willy - The center punchedd a couple big towers too!
Templar for a Second - Tre, my money's on Bin Laden...just the symbolism alone has to be his doing
Trace - This hits close to home since I was stationed at the Pentagon for 6 years
-jabber - That's sad to hear Templar - the news is all about the NYC tragedy.
Tre': struck - Jabber - no, that's not it - the guess is that the pilot may have been told what was going to happen by the hijackers...and then decided to down the plane rather than crash in NYC - I don't know, this is all supposition
M.C. - regardless of the circumstances
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Tre': struck - Diana - this is definitely an overseas job...no question about it
Templar for a Second - DTV, I think we can...the attacks were TOO coordinated, and too symbolic...a home terrorist would have hit the IRS or FBI buildings sooner than the Pentagon
Pan - Tre, that's the most reactionary thingn I've ever heard from you. You can't blame a whole continent.
Stu - I don't think anyone can be ruled out. Who knows, with the extradition of the drug lord (Ochoa?), possibly....
Willy - HOLY CRAP! THEY show the airplane flying into the building!
Tre': struck - Mike B is from MA....a little over an hour from Boston
Clepsydra - Time and tide waits for no-one 4:17pm
Willy - DAMN!
Trace - Willy- they'll be showing that over and over all day now
-jabber - PM to Pan: give Tre' a break (never thought you'd hear me say that)...
Diana the Valkyrie - All international flights to the USA have been diverted
-jabber - Understood about supposition - the news is taken by NYC so there's very little about PA or even the Pentagon now.
Tre': struck - Pan - I'm more thankful than angry, but far more angry than sad right now. And I'm *very* saddened by all this...
Templar for a Second - I haven't seen that yet...working..
Willy - very true Trace,
Templar for a Second - We aren't used to terrorism on this scale DTV
Pan - I'm worried about the west coast.
Tre': struck - Dang - talking with two people online whose offices have been shut down while we were talking...
-jabber - Yes DtV - and that makes sense...
Trace - The loved ones will be subjected to watching it over and over again
-jabber - Colour changed
Willy - that's the brutal part
-jabber - Where are you from Trace?
Templar for a Second - Yes, TRace, that's the part that's going to suck
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Trace - Dallas
-jabber - No Willy, the brutal part is the damn attack!
Pan - This has obviously been well organized, and there's no reason for us to assume that it's over yet.
Trace - we are worried about something happening here
-jabber - Ah, Trace, I thought so - we've spoken via email - and never met.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Diana the Valkyrie - Canada has shut down it's airports
Trace - Yeah, Jab I've been trying to 'hook up' with you for a while now
Tre': struck - Diana - all U.S. airports are shut down
Stu - I think I'm going to head for Virginia now. The FAA shut down US airports
Diana the Valkyrie - There's planes halfway across the Atlantic, that can't turn around
Templar for a Second - One things for certain...we HAVE to find the people responsible for this and bring them to Justice!!
Willy - They will work that part out Okay Diana
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Stu, come back soon.
Stu - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:21pm)
Clepsydra - Cheerio
Diana the Valkyrie - I guess they'll allow the planes that can't turn around, to land
-jabber - Trace, I think just staying away from the Bank of America Tower in downtown Dallas would be a good idea.
Willy - There's other places to go, like Iceland, and Greenland, Scotland, the Azores, etc...
Pan - bye, Stu
M.C. - bye stu
Templar for a Second - see ya stu
Trace - hopefully I won't be reactivated to take care of our response to this attack
Willy - The don't even know how many airplanes have crashed
Trace - yeah, stay away from downtown.. period
Trace - where are you at Jabber?
Pan - The Keycorp tower and Tower city building have been evacuated in Cleveland.
-jabber - American lost two planes in a hijacking - one went into the WTC, another they think was the one that went to the Pentagon.
-jabber - I live in Garland, Trace - and I plan on staying in "Garland" today.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Diana the Valkyrie - Two to the WTC
M.C. - The United States will never be the same after today
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from Willy
Trace - no way..... I live in Garland
Willy - United has also lost one
Templar for a Second - No it won't...and it shouldn't be
-jabber - Trace I think I vaguely remember you stating that.
Trace - Buckingham and Garland Road
-jabber - Yeah, I remember that Trace.
Tre': struck - Ok, now we're having to be *very* careful - potential bio-terrorism?? Ok, folks - go get your emergency supplies....I don't know what to do
Trace - I have 3 words for ya'll.... Army Surplus Store
Pan - Tre, that's my feeling, and I'll bet it's true with most: what to do now?
Willy - Now I wish I was back in Kuujjuaq
Templar for a Second - I think that's what we are all thinking...
Tre': struck - MC - the world is forever changed
-jabber - Willy, where are you right now?
Willy - Vancouver,
Templar for a Second - I think, at least short term, we are going to see a security crackdown everywhere
Diana the Valkyrie - There's going to be major economic consequences, too
Willy - I was gonna go flying for fun this morning, but I think I'll cancel that plan
Trace - we already have major economic problems here
-jabber - Ah, so you're home then. BTW, Toronto I thought was a lovely city - but it's amazing that the only time I was out of the country this year was 2 days before this happened.
Clepsydra - A stitch in time saves nine 4:27pm
-jabber - Agreed Trace!
Templar for a Second - It's tough...
M.C. - anybody own airline stocks ?
Diana the Valkyrie - This will add to them
Pan - Diana, you've got that right. Business in general has already taken hits, and it's still morning.
M.C. - my advice is to sell
-jabber - MC, my advice is to - well I won't say it.
Trace - I think the national unemployment rate probably went up from 4.5%
Templar for a Second - You know, it's like ths reporter said; if a country had organized this, this would be considered an act of war
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Willy - I gotta go guys,
Pan - Okay, I've got a bizillion things to do. Bye, folks.
M.C. - it's probably much worse then Pearl Harbor
Clepsydra - Ting; one bell on the Dog Watch 4:30pm
Willy - take care everyone
Trace - see ya Willy
-jabber - plane coming up the Potomac coming into DC...
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Willy, come back soon.
Willy - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:30pm)
M.C. - in terms of casualties
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Pan, come back soon.
Pan - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:30pm)
-jabber - Later Willy...
-jabber - Later Pan...
Templar for a Second - later
M.C. - you want to wake up and be glad it's a dream
Trace - I hope something happens to that Potomac plane before it reaches it's destination
Vi - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:31pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Vi, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - The Slovakian swimmer slips in
M.C. - but it's not
Vi - Colour changed
Tre': struck - I tuned in shortly after the first crash this morning - it was sad, but although the damage was bad, it seemed reasonably contained. When we saw an explosion during that coverage, we believed the fuselage had blown out of the side of the building - it was several moments before we realized that had actually been a second crash. At that point, some people said - must be a communications problem....but I wasn't that stupid. It was quickly surmised that NY was under attack...and then you saw the footage of the second plane's deliberate attack. Even on a bad day, no one could hit that tower - on a clear day like this, forget it. It's gotten progressively worse for me this mornign...that's just my feelings, all
M.C. - hello Violet
Templar for a Second - I don't think ANYTHING is going to get through now
Vi - This is utterly insane. Is it the Palestinians?
Trace - hello Vi
Vi - Hi guys
M.C. - I doubt it Violet
Tre': struck - MC - you cannot name a single, more horrific day in the history of the world
Trace - that's what they are saying
Templar for a Second - That's the suspicion VI...Ossama Bin Laden
M.C. - Hiroshima
TomNine - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:32pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, TomNine, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Clepsy jumps at T9, and puts him in a headlock, picks him up and turns him upside down
Vi - Then who?? Why??
TomNine - Good morning.
Trace - I have a Palatinian friend that says he wouldn't be surprised
Vi - I thought Bin Laden was Palestinian
-jabber - Vi and TomNine, hello - I "wish" it was a good morning Tom...
Trace - Palastinian I mean
-jabber - MC are you an asshole? Are you saying Hiroshima was worse?
Vi - You got it Tre'.. Hi -Jabber
TomNine - Bin Laden is Saudi Arabian.
Tre': struck - MC - Hiroshima and Nagasaki don't even come close...no way
Diana the Valkyrie - No-one knows yet who did it
Trace - he was before he got exiled
M.C. - my guess is Bin Laden
-jabber - "font size="16">DON'T BE AN ASSHOLE MC
M.C. - he's Saudi Arabian
Vi - It hasto have been precisely organised to have suicidebombers on all the hijacked aircraft
Trace - He was born in Saudi, but he is no longer a Saudi national
M.C. - jabber, what say we call a truce today
Tre': struck - MC - what say you try to be a tad more sensitive in this very difficult time for us all
Clepsydra - Time for a change 4:34pm
Templar for a Second - Bin Laden is a saudi Vi..
-jabber - MC, if you quit saying stupid shit I'll be glad to. Quit being a fuckin' snob and as Tre' said, a bit more sensitive - I've said NOTHING uncivil toward you today. Nothing. So YOU truce it - I'm fine.
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from Vi
Templar for a Second - over 300 from the planes alone are said to be dead...god knows what the final count will be
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Vi
M.C. - asshole is considered uncivil by some people
Trace - they said there are 50,000 employees in both towers?
Vi - He does Templar.. I find this beyond comprehension
Clepsydra - Vi, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Vi, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
TomNine - Until we see some body counts and know what is going on, there is no use "ranking" this as a day of infamy.
-jabber - MC how about "fuck off you insensitive prick?" is that more civil?
Trace - hopefully a bunch of them called in sick this morning
Vi - A little, Tre' . the scale is inconceivable
Clepsydra - Vi, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Trace - Now they are saying that we weren't taking them as seriously as they were taking us
Tre': struck - Tom - this is the worst day in the history of the world....I cannot name anything worse. I said that, then for SOME UNKNOWN REASON, MC pipes up with "Hiroshima". As IF
M.C. - jabber, if this will help you cope, then swear all you want at me
Templar for a Second - I hate to sound like this...but one thing is for certain, we should find these people and kill them
Tre': struck - MC - please...
-jabber - Tre', MC is showing us who the TRUE ASSHOLE is -
M.C. - youi too tre
Vi - Has anyone made any demands?
Clepsydra - M.C., you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
-jabber - MC, it doesn't help - it hurts that you are acting like a dick during this. You are NOT helping by being an insensitive asshole.
Trace - no one has claimed responsibility yet Vi
Clepsydra - M.C., you have a new Private message from Vi
-jabber - Tre', we've seen MC's true colors - and it ain't pretty.
Diana the Valkyrie - Calm down, jabber
Trace - this is what happens when we let our guard down
-jabber - DtV, YOU calm down -
Templar for a Second - i have to get back to work....be careful out there everyone!!
Tre': struck - MC - I'm with Jabber here - what if I started blaming "those selfish fricken Israelis" for the whole thing? If we weren't so busy protecting sorry little Israel, all the Arabs and others wouldn't be so pissed at us.
Vi - This is utterly horrendous.. we should be thinking of the families of those killed
Trace - see ya
-jabber - That's very unfortunate Trace...
Vi - bye Trace
M.C. - you're angry and frustrated, M.C. gave you a reason - not a good one - to vent your anger
-jabber - Yes Tre'.
Trace - oops... not me... I meant see ya Templar
Tre': struck - But we HAVE to protect Israel - not because we like them, but because of their geographical position in the Middle East
-jabber - MC, you're a certifiable asshole from this day forward - I've NEVER said anything bad about Israel -
Templar for a Second - Agreed Vi..
M.C. - you don't even know why you're angry at me
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from Vi
Len - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:41pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Len, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Tre': struck - MC - yes, I'm angry, but you're SO intent on your personal little one-up war, you can't set aside your selfishness for just a few moments so that we can all talk about this
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Templar for a Second, come back soon.
Templar for a Second - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:41pm)
-jabber - Len, hello...
Len - Hi...
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Len
-jabber - Take care Templar...
Vi - Hi Len
M.C. - hello len
Trace - hey Len
-jabber - Tre', there is no war - don't care to have wars with folks like MC of such assholish proportions.
Clepsydra - Vi, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Tre': struck - MC - I'm upset with you over "Hiroshima"
Vi - I have to go.. stuff @ school to do. My thoughts & prayers are with you guys
Trace - well, I better go so I can get in contact with some of my friends that still work at the Pentagon
Len - What I find terribly scary, is that it might not have ended yet...
Trace - see ya Vi
-jabber - Take care Trace... - and Vi...
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Trace, come back soon.
Trace - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:44pm)
M.C. - you're upset, but not because of anything I said. It's just a way of getting out the frustration you feel
Len - Bye Vi
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Vi, come back soon.
Vi - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:44pm)
Clepsydra - Violet swims out again
-jabber - Yes Len - as I said earlier it's difficult to stun/horrify me - but I'm both.
-jabber - No MC, no one's lashing out at anyone but an insensitive prick but you!
Diana the Valkyrie - Calm down, jabber
Tre': struck - Len- yes...I am not so certain this has played out yet
-jabber - MC, just apologize for your insensitive comments (DtV would be on MY ass if I uttered something insensitive - but she's a biased you know what).
Diana the Valkyrie - The consequences will take a very long time to work through
Clepsydra - Time it waits for no man my future it is revealed 4:45pm
M.C. - it's O.K. Diana, it's to be expected
Tre': struck - MC - I have nothing more to say to you - please do not address me or direct any further comments towards me.
-jabber - DtV, quit reprimanding ME! Why not reprimand MC for his insensitivity to a US and "world" tragedy!
-jabber - FUCK YOU MC - FUCK YOU AND THE HORSE YOU RODE IN ON YOU SLIMEY SNIVELLY ASSHOLE!
* Diana the Valkyrie refuses to get into an argument with jabber
-jabber - FUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MC
Len - The sheer scale of things conjurs some frightening thoughts of things that might possibly yet to come
Tre': struck - Diana - haven't you a CLUE about what's happening here? While the loss of life may be limited to American soil, the entire free world is affected.
-jabber - FUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MCFUCK YOU MC
-jabber - Agreed Len...
M.C. - feel better now Jabber ?
-jabber - Agreed TRe'.
-jabber - No MC, once you log off and get the hell out of here, THEN I'll feel better you mother fuckin' piece of bullshit!
Diana the Valkyrie - I realise that, Tre
M.C. - It's indeed a tragic day
-jabber - MC, this is a community and you don't "care" about said community - you've made that abundantly clear to anyone with a brain.
Diana the Valkyrie - A 757 crashed near Pittsburgh
Tre': struck - Jabber - let it go, man...gotta look out for our own right now
-jabber - Agreed Tre - I have just learned of one more person who is rubbish...
Len - The swedish prime minister just emphasized that even though this an immense US tradegy, it is also probably the biggest assault on "the whole world of free democracy" ever
Tre': struck - An LA-bound plane is still missing...no word on its location right now
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - Len, yes, your prime minister sounds like he accurately described it.
Tre': struck - I agree, Len - and it is those freedoms we enjoy which left us vulnerable to something so unexpected like this
TomNine - All the planes seem to be accounted for.
M.C. - Tom Clancy is on CNN
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Tre': struck - I was JUST this weekend talking about how "religion has fucked up this world".
Tre': struck - As Diana says, "Religion is the worst thing that ever happened to the world."
el"friggin'Mooseo - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 4:54pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, el"friggin'Mooseo, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
el - holy shit
Diana the Valkyrie - We don't know that this was done for that kind of motive, Tre
TomNine - Moose, hey.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Moose
Tre': struck - Diana - if it weren't for religion, then everyone over there would have no reason to hate the Israelis
Len - The palestinians are reportedly cheering in the streets...
TomNine - If it wasn't for "religion" there wouldn't be any Israelis.
M.C. - Diana, could you please turn on your PM's
el - this has NEVER happened in the U.S. since the war of 1812
TomNine - Len, lots of people are probably happy to see this happen.
Tre': struck - Tom - exactly. El - NOTHING like this has ever happened...EVER. Not even a war in Heaven could match this
Diana the Valkyrie - Tre, the Israel thing isn't about religion
Diana the Valkyrie - PMs on
TomNine - Moose, what do you think happened? Have the Brits attacked us again?
el - us being atacked on our home soil
Tre': struck - Diana - it's about oil and religion. What else is there in that region?
Diana the Valkyrie - Tre, there's two groups of people both claiming the same territory
Len - Yes, I know... religious fanatics that view the US as TheDevil
el - nope Tom it's just a lot of people and with alot of beef toward the U.S. and our allies
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram030.jpg
el - thanks for the pic me up tre
M.C. - I don't see your name there
M.C. - now I do
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the Dog Watch 5:00pm
Diana the Valkyrie - Your browser updates the list only when you post something
Tre': struck - US-Mexico border has been sealed off
-jabber - Okay I'm back - was speaking with my roommate on the phone - hello mooseo...
el - jabber ain't this someshit
-jabber - Yes mooseo, as I said, it takes a lot to stun/horrify me - and I am both.
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from M.C.
el - and those who are comparing this to pearl harbor are grossly incorrect
Clepsydra - M.C., you have a new Private message from Diana the Valkyrie
TomNine - The purpose of the day's events is to frighten us and to comfort our enemies.
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from M.C.
Clepsydra - M.C., you have a new Private message from Diana the Valkyrie
el - George W. is a skull, and it is his duty as president to declare war..to show his superority as a skulll it was only a matter of time before this country got into a war while he was president
Clepsydra - Up the Beatles 5:03pm
TomNine - Comparisons with Pearl Harbor seem apt to me, at least in public reaction. The body count is likely to be about the same.
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from M.C.
Diana the Valkyrie - Declare war against who?
el - nope Tom this is worse for a number of reasons...
TomNine - Diana, we're Americans. We don't need a good reason to start lobbing missiles at the usual suspects.
Tre': struck - FistMan is on the line...
TomNine - Moose, it's only worse because you are around for it.
el - one pearl harbor wasn't in the united states at the time of it's attack
Clepsydra - Time it waits for no man my future it is revealed 5:05pm
Diana the Valkyrie - But then the real villains would get away with it
M.C. - conventional wars, as we know them, are a thing of the past
TomNine - Diana, we need those real villians to stay active.
Tre': struck - Fist is ok - he was at work, but walked home
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram060.jpg
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram060.jpg
TomNine - Tre, I just see a blank page there.
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram060.jpg
-jabber - Tre', where "was" FistMan???
Tre': struck - Jabber - he was at work...in Midtown
-jabber - Thanks Tre'...
TomNine - Did moose get bumped, or did he run out of reasons?
Diana the Valkyrie - Well, I was wondering about his first reason
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram111.jpg
TomNine - Hawaii wasn't a state at the time.
Diana the Valkyrie - Ah. But it was seen as an attack on the USA
M.C. - the psycological effect will be worse. People will think twice about flying and going into tall buildings
Tre': struck - What comes immediately to mind is that we all saw it live, as it happened - the flow of information makes this an entirely different world than existed back in 1941.
Diana the Valkyrie - A territory?
TomNine - Yes, it was a territory of the US.
TomNine - People SHOULD think twice about flying and going into tall buildings.
Diana the Valkyrie - There will be a big security clampdown, flying in the US will become a lot more difficult
-jabber - Agreed about the flow of information Tre'...
M.C. - Today is going to change America; it will never be the same after this
Tre': struck - "Close our borders!!"
TomNine - All the layers of airport security in place now are just there to make us feel safe, not to be safe.
-jabber - Do you really believe so Tom??? I am curious "how" the hijacking occurred - in any of the planes...
Tre': struck - After watching "In the line of fire", I realized just how easy it is for those people to do very bad things
Templar Back for a Moment - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:22pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Templar Back for a Moment, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Current airport security hinges on a few guys making $7 an hour. It wouldn't be hard for a patient organization to infiltrate. 2 of the 4 flights came out of Boston, I'm sure they will have a few guards under arrest now.
M.C. - all of lower Manhatten is being evacuated
-jabber - Were all of these flights that were hijacked domestic flights? I think I heard at least 2 were, right?
Tre': struck - I'm most afraid of our water supply right now
boristhespider - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:23pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, boristhespider, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Boris, hello.
boristhespider - hi tom and everyone
Templar Back for a Moment - No need to be tre', after this, I think security every where will be heightened
-jabber - boris, hello...
Tre': struck - Tom - you're exactly right...I always suspect the Ethiopians when I'm in Minnesota. I was at an airport not so long ago, and two guys were speaking some foreign language and were going around videotaping all sorts of things - actually, I said "recent", but it was several months ago
Gwill - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:24pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Gwill, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
boristhespider - Is this the decline of the western civilization or what?
Gwill - Hey all.
TomNine - Gwill, hello.
boristhespider - hi gwill, hello jab
Gwill - Okay I just woke up, fill me in what happened?
TomNine - Boris, western civilization will survive.
Templar Back for a Moment - Hi Gwill, Boris
-jabber - Gwill, hello...
Templar Back for a Moment - I hope, I really do, that the prez and congress take the freakin' gloves off!!
TomNine - Templar, don't worry, we'll be blowing up Afghan baby food factories before too long.
boristhespider - Tom, I don't know if that's good, but I'm in the western civilization, then I hope u right
-jabber - T9 - why the jokes now?
Diana the Valkyrie - Because there's a real danger that there will be a revenge attack against the *wrong people*
TomNine - Jabs, I forgot about your sensitivities, sorry for bringing reality up.
* Gwill thinks he has missed something big and will be back after we checks the news.
Templar Back for a Moment - We should hunt down Bin Laden like I freakin dog and kill him..let's not be civilized about this, let's ge the job done
Diana the Valkyrie - The problem with that, Templar, is if it wasn't Laden that did it, then the real killer gets away with it
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Len - The Talbans just had a press conference offering their condolances
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram116.jpg
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting; three bells on the Dog Watch 5:30pm
TomNine - The Taliban knows we may be preparing to reduce their rubble into even finer rubble.
Len - That's the "talibans"
Tre': struck - Tom - we have a sincere belief that we have to rid the world of whatever bloodlines could have desired to cause so much pain...we'll be guilty, but it's in the name of democracy
Templar Back for a Moment - True, but it would send a message to whoever really did it; plus I find it really hard to believe that he didn't have SOMETHING to do with this
Diana the Valkyrie - Do you want to send a message "You got away with it" ?
TomNine - Tre, what say we get some baseball bats right now and search the streets for folks with dark skins and accents?
Templar Back for a Moment - no, an old testament message will do, 'blood for blood'
-jabber - T9, is this a "joke" to you or what?
Tre': struck - Tom - I saw that movie...when they put all the young Arab males in makeshift prison facilities
TomNine - We were ready to nuke Arabs after Oklahoma City too.
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
FistMan - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:33pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, FistMan, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - The man with two message boards
-jabber - FistMan, hello - where are you at right now???
FistMan - hey folks
TomNine - Fist, hey.
Diana the Valkyrie - Right. It's important to punish the criminals, not someone else
Templar Back for a Moment - hey fistman, how r u?
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, FM
-jabber - TomNine, do you realize you probably have some of the "last" pics with the World Trade Center in the background???
Tre': struck - Tom - our lack of patriotism - on a whole - is what makes us susceptible to things like this. This is all such a terrible tragedy, so horrific it could not have been envisioned by many people at all...much less executed. Who knows when the next (or same) group will try to "outdo" this massive scale attack.
M.C. - boris, civilization will survive, but September 11th will never be forgotten
FistMan - i was at my office near grand central when it went down...but after the world trade centers fell, i decided i'd be safer here at my place on the upper east side (no major landmarks here)...cause my building is right near the chrysler building too
M.C. - boris, civilization will survive, but September 11th will never be forgotten
DAvid - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:35pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, DAvid, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
FistMan - everybody is vulnerable...that's the human condition, tre
TomNine - DA, hello.
M.C. - damn, how'd that happen
Templar Back for a Moment - T9, not talking nukes, I'm talking an organized, concerted effort to do everything, and anything within our power to find those resposible and make them pay DEARLY for this
-jabber - DAvid, thanks for your email.
DAvid - Hello everyone.
-jabber - Agreed Templar...
Gwill - Damn what a terrible tragidy. Almost unbelievable!
boristhespider - I think u r right M.C. but to forgive it u have to rebuild everything, after that it comes the forgiving
FistMan - people are hysterical here because everybody has at least one loved one or friend that works down there...and the phones aren't working too well right now
Templar Back for a Moment - by whatever means necessary...
TomNine - Templar, the "nukes" part of that post was not the key element.
DAvid - Thanks for the concern.
Gwill - I hope all your friends down there are okay Fist.
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
-jabber - Yes FistMan...
Tre': struck - We do not know where the President is heading.
Clepsydra - "[It's] time for the human race to enter the solar system." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
Tre': struck - David - we were wondering about you...you work in the west Village, no?
DAvid - Gruesome thing if I'd been at work I could've watched.
boristhespider - btw I think it's a hard shoot to all the intelligent services, and until now I saw something like this just in films, and never thought it could be really happen
Gwill - Has bush headed to Air Force 1 and evacuated the white house?
Len - Did they have time to fully evacuate the towers before they went down?
Clepsydra - Baby, baby, baby you're out of time 5:37pm
-jabber - DtV, would it be possibly for Clepsy to temporarily can the corny Bush jokes???
Clepsydra - "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/22/97
Templar Back for a Moment - it's time that we took the gloves off, and like the british SAS, deal with the problem as swiftly, and if necessary, as brutally as possible
Clepsydra - Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana 5:37pm
FistMan - tens of thousands of people
Diana the Valkyrie - No, Len, there were people still inside I heard
DAvid - I was getting ready when I heard.
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Len - There is lot of "uncofirmed" information floating around, but evacuating some 50000 people would take a lot of time... horrible
boristhespider - now gotta go, see ya all!
Diana the Valkyrie - Bye, Boris
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from TomNine
Gwill - Bush may not be the best public speaker, but his dad was the head of the CIA and a take no shit kind of guy. I'm sure some of that rubbed off on his son.
Clepsydra - "Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/20/96
DAvid - What's worse is they were outside the building when it collapsedd.
M.C. - Colour changed
Tre': struck - Bush was in Sarasota, Florida at an elementary school at the time of the first attack...
Clepsydra - "Republicans understand the importance of bondage between a mother and child." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Templar Back for a Moment, come back soon.
Templar Back for a Moment - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:39pm)
TomNine - See ya, Boris.
FistMan - its all a function of when people got to work
Clepsydra - Cheerio, boristhespider, come back soon.
boristhespider - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:39pm)
-jabber - Okay I've heard from Colette Nelson and Nicole Bass - they're horrified/shaken, but okay.
M.C. - McCain is calling it an "act of war"
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
FistMan - rebecca lee works down there, doesn't she?
Tre': struck - thanks for that, Jabs - we need a checkin from Scibelli now
M.C. - Their saying a country wouldn't do this because of massive retaliation
Tre': struck - Rebecca Lee was a Wall St'er, too...as is E-dog
-jabber - I've emailed Scibelli - haven't heard yet.
FistMan - e dog?
DAvid - Same here -jabber.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Tre': struck - Fist - yeah, he sometimes comes here as "Ripped Abs"
Tre': struck - Took a long time to get visual of that crash in PA - it was almost 3 hours ago
Clepsydra - Life is very short, and there's no time, 5:44pm
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
TomNine - I wonder what the intended target of the PA plane was. The pilot probably knew what what happening and managed to dump it.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
M.C. - they think it may have been the Trade center, Tom
Diana the Valkyrie - The pilot flying into the towers couldn't possibly have been the airline pilot
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from TomNine
Tre': struck - Tom - yes, that's my speculation - that he may have been hijacked and then decided to crash in the woods to limit the loss of life...a terrible thought, but an act of grace no less
Len - No, they would have dispised of the original pilots of flown the planes themselves
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Stu - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:47pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Stu, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Someone give up a chair, it's the Official Chatroom Geezer
stacy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:47pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, stacy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Stu, hey.
Stu - Colour changed
-jabber - welcome back STu
M.C. - how can you protect every tall building in the future ?
stacy - hello
Clepsydra - Cheerio, stacy, come back soon.
stacy - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:47pm)
Len - Hi Stacy
Stu - Hi Stacy!
Len - Hi Stu
Gwill - Hey Stu and Stacy.
DAvid - Hi Stu, Stacy.
Stu - Thank you, Jabber. The ride into VA from MD was easy...it was the last mile or so that was interesting
TomNine - They probably kept the airline pilots at the controls for as long as they can. Skilled jumbo jet pilots willing to kill themselves are probably hard to come by.
stacy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:48pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, stacy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Stu - Hi David, Gwill
TomNine - Stacy, hello.
Diana the Valkyrie - You can't MC. What will happen is massively increased security on air travel within the US
-jabber - Stacy hello - how are you and yours doing today?
stacy - things are scarey here
Stu - Hey, Tom!
-jabber - Where "exactly" are you Stacy.
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
M.C. - not just the U.S....EVERYWHERE
stacy - i live close to three mile island and we have been alerted about possible emergencies there
FistMan - you can't stop people from killing people if that's what they want to do
Tre': struck - The President has been found...
Clepsydra - "Illegitimacy is something we should talk about in terms of not having it." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 5/20/96
M.C. - Welcome to the 21st century
Gwill - Terrible thought Fistman but your right.
DAvid - I've heard there are emergency meetings everywhere.
Templar Back for a Moment - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:50pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Templar Back for a Moment, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Len - The US embassy has been evacuated and sealed off here, as well as increased security overall
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Diana the Valkyrie - He's at an AFB in Florida
Stu - Well, I've heard from two NYC folks...Saka and Joan
FistMan - that's why we have prisons
-jabber - DtV, I'm going to ask again, could you have Clepsy temporarily can the Bush jokes?
Clepsydra - "People that are really very weird can get into sensitive positions and have a tremendous impact on history." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr. 10/30/93
M.C. - how easy would it be for the I.R.A. to hijack a plane and crash it into London ?
Templar Back for a Moment - Seems strange that all three flights were headed to LA
Tre': struck - I'm VERY worried about the water supply....but I'm hearing that we should be okay on that front
-jabber - Stu, I've heard from Saka, Nicole, Colette, and DAvid (who's still in chat I believe)
-jabber - Yes Templar that's a "bit" curious...
Templar Back for a Moment - Hey Stacy, what's up?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from stacy
DAvid - I'm worried for Nursel, her husband's a firefighter and would've been there.
stacy - david...i thought of the same thing....
Stu - David, as I was driving home I was hearing that even firefighters were being pulled back for fear of gas explosions
M.C. - they probably planned to pulverize L.A. also
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar Back for a Moment
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Templar Back for a Moment - Who knows? With fanatics, who can say what was in their minds?
Diana the Valkyrie - They need blood for transfusions
Tre': struck - that's why I'm still holding my breath - NYC, DC....LA has to be next (but should've started about an hour ago, in my opinion)
Clepsydra - Up the Beatles 5:54pm
M.C. - we'll all remember where we were on Sept. 11th 2001
-jabber - No Tre', I think "more" DC would be next - if anywhere - that's just my opinion of course.
Blaster - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 5:54pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Blaster, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Blastoff!
Blaster -
TomNine - Blaster, hello.
M.C. - hello Blaster
Blaster - Hi
Tre': struck - Jab - yeah, I don't think they're done in DC....and they have a *large* population there...(I feel my xenophobia rising, perhaps)
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Stu - Hi Blaster
Blaster - what a nightmare...
-jabber - Tre', not "population" because of gov't centered there - the WTC was the "statement" to get our attention.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Blaster
-jabber - Agreed Blaster - I'm stunned/horrified and that's not easy to do.
DAvid - Tre' I'd think the xenophobia will rise in any metropolitan center.
Templar Back for a Moment - I can't get any work done...this sucks just thinking about it
-jabber - Agreed Templar..
Blaster - They showed a tape of arabs cheering in Jewruselm......wish I could choke every one of those bastards...
Tre': struck - Sarah lives in Pittsburgh - she sends everyone her love. She's studied terrorism, too, and while not the expert that Tom is, she feels that those responsible intended to scare the shit out of everyone by doing some really terrible things and that they've achieved their goal.
TomNine - Right after the explosions would have been a good time to launch a second round featuring biological/chemical agents. Barring that, I suspect it's over for the day and the terror support personnel are trying to cover their steps.
Clepsydra - Time is of the essence 5:58pm
Diana the Valkyrie - Scaring the shit isn't the main objective - the main objective is to provoke the wrong reactions
Tre': struck - Sarah says - "They've done what they set out to do...nothing more will happen."
Templar Back for a Moment - Terrorism is about inciting fear, and they've achieved that...no doubt...
DAvid - UNtil we retliate and then?
TomNine - Blast, I don't blame the Palestinians for taking comfort at these events. We've allowed ourselves to be associated with the guys who are routinely bombing and assassinating them.
Clepsydra - Templar Back for a Moment, you have a new Private message from stacy
Gwill - I think Sarah is correct and also it had to be a highly planned attack and therfore would occur almost simaltaniously.
-jabber - A VERY good question is how the fuck did at least 3, possibly 4 domestic flights get hijacked in one day???
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting; four bells on the Dog Watch 6:00pm
M.C. - in self defence, tom
Blaster - Don't think I'll be flying to UK on friday night.....all flights are grounded indefinitly..
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar Back for a Moment
DAvid - Coordination and planning. Imagine you and someone else get on planes leavinga the same time. Once your in the air a cell call and you make your move.
-jabber - death toll estimated at 10,000 at the WTC...
Clepsydra - Templar Back for a Moment, you have a new Private message from stacy
Blaster - Tom ,how can anybody cheer over innocent people being murdered....
-jabber - Agreed Blaster...
-jabber - DAvid what's security there for? I have idiots looking at my cameras - how did "this" pass???
Templar Back for a Moment - it had to be Bin Laden...just had to, he's rich enough to grease palms, sophisticated wnough to plan an operation of this scope, and fanatical enough to actually do it
M.C. - followers of bin Laden warned about a huge attack against the U.S. three weeks ago
Vi - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:02pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Vi, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - The Slovakian swimmer slips in
Vi - Colour changed
Blaster - Bin Laden is a dead man for sure....but how will that help....
TomNine - Violet, wb.
M.C. - welcome back, Vi
Len - Hi Vi
Blaster - Hi,Vi
Vi - This is insane..
stacy - security coming thru customs yesterday was very very tight
Clepsydra - Blaster, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - Vi, hello...
stacy - freaks me out cause i just flew yesterday
Gwill - Killing Bin Laden is a very dangerous step Blaster. That would create a martyr which is even more dangerous. Though I think they should hunt him down.
Vi - where did you go from to stacy?
DAvid - Trite but true, "where there's a will there's a way."
Stu - Hi, Vi!
-jabber - Stacy, security for me - Toronto to Minneapolis - was nothing - never even showed ANYONE my birth certificate - interesting...
stacy - toronto to harrisburg
Blaster - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:04pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Blaster, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Blastoff!
stacy - weird jabber
M.C. - how could it be "more" dangerous then what happened today
Vi - We have no proof it was Bin Laden.. Ehud Barak on BBC said if it was Afghanistan are also to be held responsible
stacy - our governor is making a statement here now
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar Back for a Moment
Blaster - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:05pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Blaster, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Blastoff!
stacy - i am hearing emergency sounds on the radio
Gwill - Exacly MC "how"! That is an unbelievably scary thought.
Vi - Oh what?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Blaster
stacy - now they are saying the governor won't address us until 130
Xander - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:06pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Xander, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Templar Back for a Moment - Vi, one of Bin Ladens residences, I think his primary one, is in afganistan...
Xander - Hello....
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, X
Blaster - Afganistan will be nuked.America will scream for revenge now,and congress will act to approve.
stacy - apparently something is going on here in central pa
Vi - exactly templar
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Templar Back for a Moment
Vi - Philadelphia??
Tre': struck - Hussein? These countries should be held accountable... Perhaps we should've let the Soviet Union destroy Afghanistan back in '80
Blaster - innocent lives will no longer be a concern...
Xander - The thought of possibilities of a new world war are very frightning
M.C. - it's not yet on the news Stacy
Stu - Hi, Xander
Templar Back for a Moment - Blastr, I doubt Afganistan will be nuked, but action is going to be taken
Vi - Hi X
M.C. - CNN at least
stacy - i am in harrisburg, the state capitol
Clepsydra - Gwill, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
Xander - Hi Sut, are you ok there?...
Xander - Hi Diana, Hi Vi, Hi all
Xander - Bush is gonna say something...
Clepsydra - "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr
Vi - Anywhere near Glen Mills?
Templar Back for a Moment - Probably going to make an announcement about the 757 that when down in PA
Blaster - Templar,don't forget Japan.We nuked them.If the public outcry is for revenge,the politicans will act for them.
Xander - There he is
M.C. - It's hard to come to terms with what happened today
Xander - Do any of you have sound of what Bush is saying there?
Clepsydra - "I stand by all the misstatements that I've made." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr. to Sam Donaldson, 8/17/93
M.C. - I keep wanting to wake up
Blaster - Hi,Xander
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
DAvid - Fox has it running.
Len - They are saying a hijacked airplane has landed on Cleveland, w. 200 passengers and carrying explosives
stacy - i need to go...i will update u guys if i can. i just need to clear this phone line. i have no idea what is going on.
Tre': struck - How does Len get that news before I do??
M.C. - landed, not crashed...right ?
DAvid - Cleveland? See you Stacy.
Len - Landed... not crashed
Templar Back for a Moment - Take care Stacy!!
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram278.jpg
Vi - This is worse than a nightmare, M.C.
Stu - Take care, Stacy
Len - Surfing sites on the web... might be rumors though, hard to tell what is confirmed facts
M.C. - yes, because it's real...very real
Len - Bye Stacy
Vi - Any idea of NY casualties yet?
Tre': struck - ah, I remember now - where I saw those foreigners videotaping was at an airport that has the little train - could've been Seattle, or Dallas, or someplace
Blaster - no one is saying any numbers yet,Vi.
Xander - Hey Blaster!
Xander - ( I was away for a sec )
Templar Back for a Moment - I don't think that will come for a while, Blaster, there is so much they g=have to dig out
TomNine - Vi, we won't have a good number of casualties for days. Hopefully, many people got out of the towers before the collapse.
Vi - my brain is refusing to acknowledge this
Xander - I hope I am not coming with something old here: what if it was an extreme right wing organzation like McVeighs?...Would that be less "bad" than a Middle East one?
Len - Someone said esimates of up to 10000 dead at the towers...
Vi - BBC had a report from a guy who was in the basement of one of the towers who got out .. they were aware of the red alert..
Blaster - Kinda makes all the little problems that we all have seem very meaningless......
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:16pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
Diana the Valkyrie - We don't know who it was yet, X, everyone is denying it so far
DAvid - Keyryst- They're showing areas I know, blocks from the WTC that were engulfed by the clouds of debry.
M.C. - Ditto that Blaster
Xander - I know, Diana, am just speculating what would be "less bad"...I guess a crazy right wing thing like McVeigh's one would not result in a worldwide war...
Xander - Hi Jabber
Templar Back for a Moment - Xander, I don't agree it was domestic terrorist...look at the targets...they aren't on the DT's agenda...if it had been the FBI building..or the IRS building, or the UN...that would be different
-jabber - Hello again Xander...
Xander - I dont really see that difference though, Templar...Anything I am missing here?...
Len - Have to go for a while... later
M.C. - suiside attacks are not really a Western thing
Blaster - Bush did not say much....but I guess it's time for his soap opera's....
Clepsydra - "The American people would not want to know of any misquotes that George Bush may or may not make." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Len, come back soon.
Len - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:18pm)
DAvid - Don't know if it was mentioned but this all is very close to the BCC where they hold a lot of shows.
Xander - That could be true, MC
-jabber - Later Len...
M.C. - and they are almost impossible to prevent
Tre': struck - Xander - I'll admit that I was one of the millions who initially blamed foreigners for the Oklahoma City attack, but with this one, there is no question.
NICOLE - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:19pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, NICOLE, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Welcome to the room, Big Bass
NICOLE - thios is the sickest day in USA history
Blaster - hi,Nicole
M.C. - hello Nicole
Xander - Hi Nicole
Templar Back for a Moment - Hey Nicole, you okay?
-jabber - NICOLE, hello - thanks for responding to my email so quickly.
Xander - Blaster, when were you supposed to fly?
TomNine - Nicole, hello.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Nicole
Templar Back for a Moment - I agree Nicole!!
Tre': struck - It will be weeks before the death toll is complete...
Blaster - Friday night ,Xander.I don't think it's gonna happen....
edi1970 - hi Nicole
NICOLE - hey, this is heartbreaking
DAvid - hi Nicole.
Xander - I guess so indeed, Blaster
Xander - I have this strange feeling in my stomach all day...
NICOLE - what I dont understand is that this is a well planned war tactic, and our government never picked up on this?
Xander - I hate injustice
-jabber - NICOLE, that's a good point.
Xander - Yes, Nicole...Unreal...
Templar Back for a Moment - It is Nicole, it's horrifying..
NICOLE - 8planes are hijacked at the same time? something is fishy
M.C. - yes, it was definiately a failure of intelligence
-jabber - 8? I heard 4 or maybe 5.
Stu - Hi, Nicole!
NICOLE - this was not something that ws planned in a week, this took months and our government never had a clue?
M.C. - is the hijacker of the plane in Cleveland still alive ?
Tre': struck - "no more than 2 brown-skinned people on any domestic flights from now on" - I don't like what is to come. And I hate to think of what the final number (lives lost) will be..."world's financial center" be darned.
TomNine - Intelligence is useful against terrorists, but you can't count on it for security.
Blaster - I don't think a single arab looking person will be able to get on a flight here for months without getting every inch of his luggage or person x-rayed now....
Templar Back for a Moment - Guys and gals, gotta run...and try to get some work done...Nicole, and all you New Yorkers, I'm sure that everyone will concur when I say that our thoughts and prayers are with you all
DAvid - It's a very hard 'cult' to infiltrate. It's easy here in the US with the militia's where the basic European sensibilities are commmon.
NICOLE - failure of intelligence? I think it was an underestimation of our enemies, our government took these threats as emtpy promises
Vi - scary, Tre'.. brown skins no but "proper blacks" are OK??
-jabber - Blaster that ALREADY was supposed to be happening - to everyone, not just Arab looking people.
Stu - Take care, Templar
NICOLE - arab looking people are being attacked in NY as we speak
Vi - bye Templar
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Templar Back for a Moment, come back soon.
Templar Back for a Moment - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:24pm)
NICOLE - even a black guy driving a cab has been attacked
Tre': struck - But I say this - we don't *want* people to be able to conceive of this sort of attack...I mean, what does it say about us if we *were* able to be prepared for this type of attack. As sad as it sounds - and as pathetic as I may be - I'm very thankful never to have known or even considered that something like this could even be possible.
Vi - Oh no..... that just makes more innocent victims
Xander - I guess they should do that for all people, Blaster...Whatever nationality
NICOLE - this is the anniversary of a treaty that we signed at Camp David with Israel
Tre': struck - Vi - I have brown skin...and some people don't think I look "American". I expect to be checked extra carefully when I go to fly next week...and that's just something I'll have to live with, because of what these cowards have done.
NICOLE - its also my anniversary with Blu today
TomNine - http://www.TheValkyrie.com/pics/b/bass35/nicol010.jpg
Blaster - I've always thought somthing like this could happen.arabs have wealth and can buy any weapon.,I'm surprised that they haven't detonated a nuke bomb anywhere yet....
TomNine - Happy anniversary, Nicole. How is BLU doing?
NICOLE - I mean I am happy its our anniversary, I am just not happen that it is the same dy of this horror
DAvid - Tre' just start talkin' and everyone will know your american.
Vi - Tre' I'll be praying.. this is obscene
Tre': struck - Blaster - I always thought about them bombing our streets...but not sending planes into the WTC or Pentagon
Tre': struck - "I am an American citizen!!!"
Xander - I am wondering: what if they had a bio weapons on the planes?
Vi - Xander don't
-jabber - Tre', amazingly on Sunday I got into the USA without providing proof of US citizenship...
Xander - If they are willing to do stuff like this, the step to bio stuff is a little one
TomNine - This attack was the exact ambitious plan made public after the last WTC bombing.
NICOLE - WOW T9, the last I will ever see of the twin towers
Xander - ok Vi
DAvid - The local station is showing debi cloud video and people running. Loks like a monster movie come to life..
Xander - Just doom thinking here
NICOLE - they let some guy on the news start talking about bio weapons
NICOLE - I think they let him talk to long, nothing like instilling fear
DAvid - debi=debri I even had trouble the second time.
Xander - Oh, Nichole...Guess I have this special feeling to know what is going on on US television
Vi - you got it Nicole.. You OK sweetie?
Clepsydra - Ting; one bell on the Dog Watch 6:30pm
NICOLE - I guess the USA will be retaliating very soon
Tre': struck - They've declared war on us, but we can't declare war on them. Thousands of people are dead as a result of this, and we have no one to blame, no one on which to seek vengeance. Honest, hard-working Arab-Americans are being targeted and attacked...and for what? The world should demand peace...everyone.
TomNine - Debris?
NICOLE - I was crying this morning, i dont know what came over me,
Vi - Yep T9 WTG Tre'
-jabber - It's very sad NICOLE - anger and sadness mixed definitely...
NICOLE - have you seen the palestines Tre'? CNN is showing them celebrating in the streets
Xander - I am gonna try to cook and eat...See you all!...May all strength be with ya!
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Xander, come back soon.
Xander - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:31pm)
NICOLE - Debris everywhere, hasnt hit my area at all, lots of sirens and stuff even in Queens
Vi - Thast won't help @ all Nicole
TomNine - Bye, X.
DAvid - OK 3 times. By Xander.
NICOLE - bye X
NICOLE - there were no phones at all this morning
Blaster - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:32pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Blaster, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - 3 ... 2 ... 1 ... Blastoff!
NICOLE - I tried to sign on, and when I couldnt get online, I turned on the tv and was horrified
* Vi has to get back to school 4 a meeting
NICOLE - bye Vi
Tre': struck - Jabber - you're lucky, eh? They tried to keep me in TO yesterday. There was a HUGE accident on the 401 which prevented me from making my flight. Well, the little Indian guy was trying to tell me I had to pay 1100 dollars to get home....that I could NOT stand by for a flight to the States. After arguing/pleading with him for 40 minutes, I left. He said I could get a flight the next day for 100 bucks, but that would be TODAY and I would've had to pay another night's hotel. Fortunately, the woman at the United counter (I was on Air Canada) informed me I *could* fly standby and she got me home. Had a two-hour delay in Denver, but made it in last night. I'm so thankful to be here ALIVE right now. My sweetheart was coming here to spend the day with me, but hers was an 8am flight and by then, everything was grounded.
M.C. - bye Violet
Vi - take care guys love & prayers
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Vi, come back soon.
Vi - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:34pm)
Clepsydra - Violet swims out again
DAvid - Bye Vi.
Blaster - The fucking news media.They are the ones that tell terrorists how to bomb the world....they are the ones that proffit from tradjedy.They will have everybody tuned in to them for weeks now.Curse those bloody bastards!
Tre': struck - ESPN is covering it, too, as is VH-1. Nothing from MTV New York, tho
-jabber - Tre', I'm just glad Canadian customs didn't believe the anti-jabber faction and stop me for child pornography. ;-o
Elmooseo - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:35pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Elmooseo, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Tre': struck - Tracy Julian, wherever you are - thank you for helping me get home. (I left a customer card on her and will send a letter to her, her supervisors, and to United.)
ulr000 - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:36pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, ulr000, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
-jabber - mooseo, wb...
-jabber - Ulrich, hello...
Tre': struck - Jabber - but would they have kept you or kicked you out?!
DAvid - I found coverage in Korean. I guess no pop stars were involved so MTV has more important things to show.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, ulr, moose
ulr000 - Hi from Germany. I hope everyone of you guys is ok. We stand united with you.
NICOLE - Stu have you seen anytning in your area?
Tre': struck - Ulrich! Where's my you-know-what?? (got some more for you from this weekend's North Americans, too)
Elmooseo - wow we've got guys here who had family in the trade center...the guys whose pc I'm using now just jetted ...his mom works in the trade center
NICOLE - thank you Ulrich
M.C. - hello ulr000
NICOLE - Colour changed
ulr000 - Tre, I'll arrange it today. OK?
Stu - Well, a plane did go into the pentagon...Virginia and the District (DC) have declared States of Emergency...basically, get off the streets
NICOLE - any word from them Elmoo?
-jabber - Tre', there was enough delightful muscle in Canada I wouldn't have minded - thank you for your concern and thoughts Ulrich.
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
TomNine - url, hello.
Tre': struck - Thank you so much for that, Ulrich - our best wishes to you as well
Blaster - The Boston flights may have had people I know on them that were trying to go home from a trade show we had in Providence....
Elmooseo - nope nicole there all from the city or nassau county..they all left together..it sucks cause Idont think they can get anywhere near the city
Tre': struck - Ulrich - ah, the thank you was for your well wishes to us here in the U.S.....but thank you for the other thing as well
NICOLE - I hope not Blaster
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram287.jpg
Blaster - I'm gonna go to the gym and let out some frustrations.seeya's later.
-jabber - Stu, yes - I would think DC is under the greatest threat now - WTC was to get our attention - it's GOTTEN it - almost like the Independence Day special effects were surreal back in '97 - so was this.
TomNine - The Navy bases here in Norfolk went to a high threatcon (hours after the attack) and I was sent home from work. It's good to be non-essential.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Blaster, come back soon.
Blaster - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:40pm)
Clepsydra - Don't forget to mow the grass.
ulr000 - Who is it, Tre?
-jabber - Okay, I've NOW heard from Elena Seiple - they are in a state of shock - but okay...
Elmooseo - all classes were cancelled today first time it's happened (for something other than snow)since the cuban missle crisis
Clepsydra - What's the time, Eccles? Eight o'clock. How do you know? I've got it written down on this piece of paper, Bluebottle. Cor, I wish I had a piece of paper with the time writted on. 6:41pm
Diana the Valkyrie - You're going to have to bring in baggage reconciliation on domestic flights
Tre': struck - Lisa Aukland - the HW and overall champ, Ulrich
ulr000 - Got one of Colette, too?
DAvid - Some legs Tre'.
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Elmooseo - if you got one of colette I hope it's from the waist up
NICOLE - DC was always under the greatest threat, it was a diversion to have the WTC bombed, I think the terrorists bombed WTC to take our attention away from DC
NICOLE - I wouldnt be surprised if more was to come today
Clepsydra - Elmooseo, you have a new Private message from -jabber
TomNine - I would be surprised to see any more attacks.
Stu - Well DC is about 10-15 minutes away. Waiting to see what's going to happen later and/or tomorrow
NICOLE - why T9?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Elmooseo
Tre': struck - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/noram071.jpg
M.C. - all planes in the U.S. have been grounded, I wonder for how long ?
elmooseo - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:45pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, elmooseo, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Security is cranked up on high, and the attacks we've seen have probably expended all the organization's resources. What is left, the support guys like the airport security moles, are busy hiding right now.
Clepsydra - Elmooseo, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Tre': struck - Tom is probably right - he knows more about terrorism than anyone else here, and has a bit more info about how/what the guilty have done (just based on profiles or "signature")
DAvid - I'm seeing video again and again and it doesn't get less disturbing.
TomNine - When the airlines do open up again, I would leave VERY early for any flights.
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from ulr000
elmooseo - that sick southern republican George W. will get to the bottom of this
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
TomNine - The video of that one tower collapsing is impressive. Those special demolition teams that impload buildings couldn't have done a cleaner drop.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
DAvid - His Star Wars system would've 'helped sooo much' with this.
NICOLE - thats why I asked T9 why?
TomNine - I was happy to see a sedate statement from W. It won't satisfy many people, but right now we need to stay calm and let the professionals do their job.
elmooseo - you know iut's bad when they haven't even discussed casualties on the air
Tre': struck - Tom - yeah, I was wondering about that - was the building initially designed to collapse in that way? (to collapse upon itself rather than falling "over")
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
DAvid - T9- I was thinking at how lucky that they fell straight down.
Tre': struck - Moose - the only casualties reported so far have been the lives that were lost on the 4 flights that crashed
TomNine - They must've been designed that way.
M.C. - it's strength was in the steel frames on the outside
Stu - Just spoke to my brother in Manhattan...the family is okay...only my cousin down in the Village still has cable and TV
-jabber - Tre', they've estimated 10,000 casualties from the WTC though...
Clepsydra - ulr000, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
DAvid - Well I'll be back later.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, DAvid, come back soon.
DAvid - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:50pm)
-jabber - Later DAvid - good to hear from you.
M.C. - when they were weakened upon impact, the buildings gave way
Stu - Take care, David!
NICOLE - I heard the estimation at 42,000
M.C. - bye David
NICOLE - bye David
-jabber - NICOLE, I wouldn't doubt that - as you're closer to the source - if the normal amount of folks working there are 50,000.
TomNine - 42,000 is probably the extreme high end, assuming normal WTC occupancy and than nobody got out or survived.
NICOLE - dont forget the surrounding buildings in the area that are beneath the WTC
NICOLE - people got out,
NICOLE - 42,000 can work there, and the WTC recieves at least 150,000 visitors a day
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
NICOLE - I forget at what point htat I heard this but from the blast the peopke in the lobby were burned alive
FistMan - i just got off the phone with my best friend...he works in the world financial center which ajoins the world trade center buildings...said he got off the subway at 8:45am this morning...and the first plane had just hit...he's ok, but he sounded pretty shook up from watching it all...said he saw a lot of people jumping out the windows and falling to their death
NICOLE - oh my God
FistMan - then the first building collapsed and he got the heck out of there...he's still walking north
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - that man is lucky t be alive
-jabber - That's terrible, FistMan, but yes your friend is lucky by moments it seems.
NICOLE - lucky to be aliuve, but imagine seeing what he saw in your mind for the rest of your life
Diana the Valkyrie - They've banned overflights of London
Diana the Valkyrie - I'd guess that's permanent
NICOLE - overflights are flights coming form the US?
NICOLE - or is the London airport just basically shut down for now?
Diana the Valkyrie - Planes aren't allowed to fly over London; from wherever
Stu - Kenny Kassel's okay...although he's got friends who worked at the World Trade Center
Diana the Valkyrie - No, London Airport is open, it's quite a long way from London
NICOLE - US airports are closed alll intl flights have to land in Canad
Tre': struck - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 6:58pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Tre': struck, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
ulr000 - Tre, the arrangements are made.
-jabber - wb Tre'...
NICOLE - USA is basically a no fly zone
Tre': struck - Thank you, Ulrich!
Tre': struck - Colour changed
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the Dog Watch 7:00pm
NICOLE - Clepsy you got to get the time right
Clepsydra - It's later than you think 7:00pm
NICOLE - its 2pm
NICOLE - stoopid clock
Diana the Valkyrie - Clepsy's in England now
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
-jabber - Agreed NICOLE...
NICOLE - she turned spastic on us? I always used to get NY t i m e from her
NICOLE - at least she isnt interrupting
Diana the Valkyrie - She isn't in NY any more, so she isn't on NY time
NICOLE - this is sick, they are showing footage from palestine of people celebrating
Clepsydra - Tre': struck, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - good I am glad she moved from NY!!!
NICOLE - will she stay in England?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from ulr000
-jabber - Agreed NICOLE - about people celebrating...
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': struck
NICOLE - I cant beleive that some people would clbrate death????
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, Nicole
Tre': struck - United has grounded all flights until 6am tomorrow.
Clepsydra - ulr000, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - can she disappear altogether?
Geert - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:04pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Geert, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
NICOLE - hi Geert
Geert - hi all
TomNine - Nicole, you don't think Americans would celebrate the death of planners of this attack?
TomNine - Geert, hello.
Tre': struck - Great - shows the white people walking in one direction, black folks walking in another
NICOLE - are you going to be dancing in the street having a party?
Geert - yeah I heard that too , those people who were celebrating!!!!! THAT S VERY VEYRSICK!!!!!!!!!!!
Diana the Valkyrie - Tom, being so clearheaded is going to be unpopular
-jabber - TomNine, only the "planners" not ALL of their people...
Geert - sorry I did shout
ulr000 - Bye for now. And have a hopefully peaceful rest of the day!
-jabber - Thanks Ulrich...
NICOLE - bye Ulrich
NICOLE - thank you very much
-jabber - But Geert, I agree with you on that "shouting"...
Clepsydra - Cheerio, ulr000, come back soon.
ulr000 - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:07pm)
TomNine - Diana, I'm used to being unpopular.
Geert - our daily problemss are reduced to zero compare to this
Stu - Hmm, just spoke with Lisa...looks like there'll be an update on WB's site coming
NICOLE - what kind of update?
Diana the Valkyrie - Air fares will be greatly increased
Tre': struck - Stu - no offense, but I hardly think any of us are concerned with WB's site at this time (you know I hate to sound that way)
Clepsydra - Baby says she's mine, you know, she tells me all the time, you know, she said so. I'm in love with her and I feel fine. 7:09pm
Diana the Valkyrie - And the hassles attached to air travel inside the US will be vastly increased.
Stu - I don't know the specifics, Nicole...she couldn't speak from Hal's house.
NICOLE - increased? why do you think that?
Tre': struck - I don't have a ticket for Vancouver yet....I hope I'll be able to attend.
Diana the Valkyrie - Because security costs money
NICOLE - you mean updates about girls traveling?
Stu - True, Tre, I was just surprised to speak to Lisa for the first time in months
Clepsydra - When it's time to meet the maker 7:10pm
Diana the Valkyrie - You'll need to hire a lot more security staff, have a lot more checks
-jabber - Tre', you thinking about attending JP Erickson's show in Vancouver?
Diana the Valkyrie - You'll have to start doing baggage reconciliation
NICOLE - I doubt people will be concerned about that
NICOLE - I dont think the airlines will knpw where to start since security is so bad to begin with
-jabber - Is the security the airline's responsibility or the airport's???
Tre': struck - Jab - I'm actually considering a move to Alaska to open my very own "musclechick colony".
Tre': struck - "Security is everyone's responsibility."
Diana the Valkyrie - They know how to do it; for a start, you'll apply international security rules to domestic flights
Geert - my heart goes out to the people who were killed, sorry if I sound emotional, but thats the way I am in this case
TomNine - People WILL be concerned about the expense and hassles of increased air security. We've seen waves of tightening and loosening of restrictions in the past.
Diana the Valkyrie - Right, Tom, but the pendulum will swing big this time
NICOLE - its our laws, FAA regulations suck. I blame the government for not enforcing the security. So many news channels have done major stories on how much you can get away with, and even with that knowledge the government has never intervened
M.C. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:14pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, M.C., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - One of the goals of terrorism is to increase security and to make life more difficult for regular folks. The Unibomber could shut down the system just by writing a letter.
Stu - Good point, Tom
NICOLE - very good point, our lives will be forever changed because of this, in more ways than we can see just now
Geert - all our tv channels have the same topic tonight
NICOLE - I havent had lunch or breakfast, BRB
Tre': struck - the two American flights had very few passengers on board...so they likely were not enough passengers to overwhelm the attackers. But place yourself in the hero role - you see someone hijack the plane, your first thought is to remain calm and get them to land the plane ASAP, right? How on EARTH can you think about being on board with someone bent on suicide?
Tre': struck - Tom is right - gets us all pissed off and ALSO takes away from time we could use doing other things we'd enjoy more than being frisked by some minimum wager at the airport.
Clepsydra - Life is very short, and there's no time, 7:17pm
Stu - Are all the hi-jacked planes accounted for?
TomNine - Like most security systems, the airport checks only work to keep honest people honest. We could triple what we pay for airline security and determined bad guys will still breach it.
Stu - And there's always missiles
Tre': struck - That plane that went down in PA had to be a dump...God bless the soul of the man who had to make that decision....killing himself and 100 others in order to save 1000s of lives
M.C. - The black boxes might shed some light on who was behind this
Clepsydra -
NICOLE - thank God this wasnt nuclear
M.C. - the ground controlers saw these flights veer off course
TomNine - I bet the suicidal intent of the hijackers wasn't made clear until late in the flight. Looking at the tower collapses again, I'm wondering if explosives were planted on the lower floors.
NICOLE - T9 that is why I asked if we could expect more? bombs are a real threat, what about biological warfare?
M.C. - is everything that happens in the cockpit recorded ?
NICOLE - thats a great ?
Tre': struck - Tom - yeah, in a hijack situation, I'd assume that the hijackers would want money or something and that their intent would be to hold the plane hostage....not to kill themselves and everyone else.
TomNine - A wave of chemical/biological attack would have been very effective right after the explosions, when people were running around outside and there was so much confusion. Now, people are home and there is a bit more control.
Tre': struck - Tom - those bombs could've been crafted little by little over a course of months
Tre': struck - I'm boiling my water, even though it was bottled weeks ago.
NICOLE - this is so sick
Tre': struck - Of course, all you do to boil water in Phoenix is to set it outside for a few minutes.
TomNine - Actually, terrorists might be restrained in the use of chemical/biological weapons for the same reason Iraq didn't use them. There is an understanding that we would be more aggressive in our retribution.
M.C. - the same reason they weren't used in WW2
M.C. - Both sides had huge quantities but didn't use them
M.C. - their talking about 10,000 dead
M.C. - at least
M.C. - 25,000 wounded
M.C. - 20% of the Vietnam war in a few hours
MadScientist - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:29pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, MadScientist, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - It's the angry or insane Seeker after Truth
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting; three bells on the Dog Watch 7:30pm
TomNine - Mads, hello.
MadScientist - Kind of hard to retatliate, if we don't even know for sure who attacked us.
-jabber - gotta go
Clepsydra - Cheerio, -jabber, come back soon.
-jabber - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:30pm)
Clepsydra - Beware the frumious Bandersnatch
M.C. - bye jabber, hello MS
TomNine - Mads, we just go around Long Island looking for stocky, swarthy guys, one of them must be behind it.
MadScientist - Clearly a well organized and powerful terrorist organiztion.
edi1970 - hi MS
* Diana the Valkyrie measures Tomnine
MadScientist - Colour changed
* TomNine is more "fat" than "stocky".
Stu - Hi Edi
MadScientist - Well, I have no idea who would fit that description.
edi1970 - hi STU
TomNine - edi, hello.
edi1970 - hi Tom
MadScientist - Likewise, I am clueless as to who kamikazed the Twin Towers.
edi1970 - bad day today
edi1970 - for everyone
NICOLE - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:35pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, NICOLE, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Welcome to the room, Big Bass
NICOLE - sorry got bumped
MadScientist - First, they had to find three people who were willing to commit suicide for God only knows what cause.
NICOLE - Colour changed
edi1970 - hi Nicole
M.C. - suicide attacks are not a Western way of doing things.
NICOLE - hi edi
NICOLE - press conference from the mayor, hold on
MadScientist - Presumably, the designated pilots wouldn't have cooperated; so, the terrorists also had to be accompished pilots.
DAvid - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:36pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, DAvid, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
DAvid - Hi all.
TomNine - MC, you never watch those WW2 movies? The good guys never had problems getting volunteers for suicide missions.
edi1970 - hi David
DAvid - It really only takes rudimentary skills to do what they did.
M.C. - if you were promised 70 virgins in heaven for a martyr's death then you'd consider it
MadScientist - Then, somehow they had to hijack three planes. And coordinate the whole affair so that the attacks all happened in a timely fashion.
M.C. - four planes
MadScientist - I would hesitate to call it rudimentary. Sophisticated is more like it.
TomNine - Mads, there were 4 planes.
M.C. - and a car bomb in Washington
NICOLE - 3 planes in NY, what about the other planes? I heard that there were 8 hijacked planes, 3 planes are anaccounted for
MadScientist - I mean, to bring the plane down is one thing, but to aim it precisely to hit, what from that perspective is actually a fairly difficult target...
M.C. - Colour changed
MadScientist - That is what I get for turning off the news. I hate to watch stuff like that.
TomNine - I would say the people who did this were patient and determined, I don't know about sophisticated or rudimentary. I suspect the airline pilots were kept at the controls until the last few minutes.
DAvid - A friend of mine whos never been a pilot did managed to do a decent job in a 737 simulater. Private pilot licensing and a few handbooks...
NICOLE - I am going to donate blood, see everyone later
M.C. - it was just so unexpected, how could anyone have prevented it once the planes were hyjacked ?
TomNine - Bye, Nicole.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, NICOLE, come back soon.
NICOLE - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:40pm)
Clepsydra - ttfn, Big Bass
M.C. - hijacked
MadScientist - Ok, so they don't have to be the best of pilots. Still to coordinate the whole affair...
M.C. - bye nicole
edi1970 - bye Nicole
MadScientist - And there is the question of how they managed to hijack so many planes. How did they manage to evade security measures?
M.C. - four jets hijacked simultaniously !!! think about that
TomNine - I imagine they had moles take minimum-wage airport security jobs starting at least a year ago.
MadScientist - that's an idea.
Diana the Valkyrie - They were domestic flights, you didn't have much security on internal flights
M.C. - now that it's in our collective conciousness, every time a plane veers slightlt off course it's going to create a panic
Clepsydra - Time and tide waits for no-one 7:43pm
M.C. - slightly
Diana the Valkyrie - No luggage reconciliation, I think
TomNine - The best coordinated terror event accredited to Usama bin Laden to date was the bombing of two embassies in Africa.
DAvid - A few minutes ago a fighter flew over.
Stu - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:44pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Stu, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Someone give up a chair, it's the Official Chatroom Geezer
Stu - Colour changed
edi1970 - i have go now, i'm near to all americans bye
Clepsydra - Cheerio, edi1970, come back soon.
edi1970 - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:45pm)
MadScientist - Imagine if we have to have F16s patrolling the skies over the White House.
Clepsydra - "We are ready for any unforeseen event that may or may not occur." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 9/22/97
M.C. - bye edi
MadScientist - Well, I guess this is a good time as any to split.
Clepsydra - There's a time and a place for everything 7:47pm
MadScientist - Later folks
DAvid - Take it Easy, MS.
M.C. - bye MS
Clepsydra - Cheerio, MadScientist, come back soon.
MadScientist - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:47pm)
Clepsydra - Bye, Scientist
TomNine - Bye, Mads.
DAvid - Stu? Stu? Talk to us Stu.
M.C. - What do you say at a time like this
Clepsydra - Tempus fugit 7:49pm
Stu - Oops, I was just in front of the TV
M.C. - at least during the blitz you knew the bombers were on the way
Stu - Listening to the Pentagon situation which is about 10 miles from me
M.C. - but not the V2's though
M.C. - but the enemy was known, there was somebody to fight
Stu - My grandfather had some interesting stories of London during the Blitz
TomNine - I drove right by the Pentagon last time I drove to Stu'
Clepsydra - Time it waits for no man my fate is sealed 7:53pm
Diana the Valkyrie - The enemy will be discovered, just not today
TomNine - ... to Stu's house.
M.C. - it's strange to be present at an event which you know is going to have dramatic consequences
Troy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 7:54pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Troy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hello, Troy from down under
Troy - hello,all
TomNine - Troy, hello.
M.C. - an event that will change the course of history, but which way
Stu - I missed the Tyson's Corner exit once Tom, and followed your path to my place
DAvid - Hi Troy.
M.C. - hello Troy
Stu - Hi, Troy!
Troy - it is times like this I am glad Austalia is suck a piss ant of a country..
TomNine - There is no telling if there will be historical importance beyond the event itself. I mean, it might not lead to anything, any more than Oklahoma City or Challenger did.
M.C. - is Christine back ?
Troy - MC, not yet
TomNine - Troy, the only thing you have worth crashing a plane into is an opera house.
M.C. - the effects of this event will be much more far reaching, Tom
Troy - Tom, not much ever happens there man....
M.C. - was she supposed to fly through the U.S.?
Troy - MC, well if there is a bigger event with in a few week this will seem small,lets hope there is not..
Diana the Valkyrie - Challenger was very big
TomNine - MC, if you mean emotional/psychological effects, I agree. But there is no reason to expect it to be a historic catalyst like Pearl Harbor.
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; eight bells on the Dog Watch 8:00pm
Troy - MC, it would be a long way out of the way to go to Australia from London though the USA,,, no Bongcock
M.C. - Challenger was tragic, but how did it change anything in a global sence?
TomNine - I hear Christine likes Bongcock.
M.C. - the reason I asked -Troy - is because all flights in the U.S. are grounded
* Stu wonders if that's what's sold in Bong shops?
Ginny - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:02pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Ginny, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Troy - Tommy, funny, but for real FBB is huge there, BB all up is big there they are such a small people and they love it, a lot of the USA male pro's go there to train, cheap and drugs for BB are legal...
M.C. - They said on the news that at any given moment there are 4,000 planes in the sky over the U.S....now there are none
Stu - Hi Ginny!
Troy - Hello,Ginny
M.C. - hello ginny
Ginny - hello everyone....
TomNine - Ginny!
* Ginny just sits quietly
Troy - do they have any idea why this has happened yet?
Troy - Stu, what is a bong?
Troy - @ Stu
M.C. - difficult to talk today, Ginny
Troy - did everybody get booted?
Troy - if you got booted anwser now?
M.C. - in a manner of speaking Troy
* Stu wonders if his ex-son-in-law-to-be is still sucking on a bong or has graduated
Ginny - yes...unblievable. I am waiting to be sure my daughters are safe
Pamela - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:06pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Pamela, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Troy - Stu, maybe gone from bong to dong?
Stu - Hi Pam
M.C. - booted into a strange new world
Pamela - Holy SHIT!!! I'm watching the news now........
Troy - Hello,Pam
sen - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:07pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, sen, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hello, Sen
sen - Colour changed
Ginny - hello sen
Stu - Could be, Troy...he's living with an old Navy buddy in Charlotte
sen - Hi Ginny, Hello Pam, hi guys
Stu - Hi Sen
M.C. - hello Pam and sen
Pamela - hello all.................forgive me if I'm not my normal self........
TomNine - Sen, hello.
Troy - Hello,Sen, you don't own a plane do you sen?
M.C. - we understand, Pam
got a relative - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:08pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, got a relative, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - Pamela!
* got a relative who works at the Pentagon complex
sen - I dont Troy
got a relative -
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
got a relative - Colour changed
M.C. - hello Gaily, picked a somber day to return
Pamela - Saka lives in NYC...........God I hope she was nowhere near it
gaily - Nickname change, got a relative is now known as gaily
M.C. - is he O.K. ?
TomNine - Gaily, the Pentagon is a big place.
Ginny - hello gaily
sen - Hi Gaily
gaily - not sure....haven't heard from her yet
Clepsydra - Stu, you have a new Private message from Troy
Ginny - Colour changed
sen - I ahvent watch the news the last two hours..any idea yet who is responsible?
M.C. - All the people associated with this site seem to have been accounted for
Troy - Hello,Gaily
Pamela - I'm praying for her and the many who were injured,,,,,,,,
Stu - Hi, Niece!
gaily - yes...... I know........but I'm still a bit worried...... I'm not sure what section she works in.....
Stu - Pam, Saka is okay...I had an email earlier and she also said something on her board
sen - I dont think anyone who wasnt in the planes or in the buildings was hurted ...... the tower broke down an hour after the plane hit it.....
Clepsydra - Time is of the essence 8:10pm
M.C. - either Tre' or jabber got an e-mail responce from her I believe
* Pamela lights a white candle and says a prayer...........
Troy - does she work in the building?
TomNine - Sen, lots of people were trapped in the Towers, we'll find out in the weeks to come how many.
sen - anyway...it was the worst attack after Pourl Harbour ....
Pamela - Oh, I'm SO glad to hear that Stu!!!
sen - true Tom..... no fun to think about it ......
M.C. - an early estimate is 10,000 dead and 25,000 wounded
Troy - on the news here there saying the Iracky goverment may be involved..
M.C. - four Pearl Harbors
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Pamela - This is going to start a WAR!!!
Tre': back - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:13pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Tre': back, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
sen - PLEASE NOT !!!!!
Tre': back - Colour changed
Troy - Hello,Tre'
sen - hey Tre
Ginny - hi tre`
Troy - Pam, they not find out who to fight,,, lets hope it does not start anything but it was some fucked in the mead nuts..
TomNine - The Pentagon is a sturdy old building, but no defenses from air attack. Right near National Airport, a plane could approach without raising alarm.
DAvid - Hi Ginny, Tre'. Sorry I'm doing four things at once.
Diana the Valkyrie - War against who, Pam?
Ginny - Tom its unbelievable because the Pentagon has excellent air deffence
M.C. - it's the largest building in the world
Pamela - Whoever did it of course!
Ginny - Hello DAvid and Diana
* sen fears that the hurt of pride is worse than the hurting from the dead ones....and that isnt good.....
Tre': back - Troy - I think someone should bomb the IFBB headquarters
TomNine - Ginny, what air defense is that?
Troy - pam, you can only have a war against a country, lets hope it does not come to that,
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
DAvid - Now there's a target worth while.
Ginny - am I declosing inhouse information??
Troy - Tre' you think it was Marja's fans going for De'Mila?
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Ginny - disclosing
sen - you cant defend against terrostic attacks......
sen - ask MC.... he may know
Tre': back - Troy - DeMilia should be forced to choke on the smoke...
M.C. - there's no defence against a plane landing at an airport, then suddenly overrunning the landing field and crashing into an adjacent building
Diana the Valkyrie - We don't know who did it, Pam
sen - the ones who actually did it have died for "honour"
Troy - Tre' I have talked to him, and he is a top block really, but the rules as a hole are put in By Ben W man,, the Dman wants to push the sport on but sort off has his hands tied..
Tre': back - Troy - what do you think about the statements from the Ben Weider interview. He wants it to become "fitness bodybuilding" now.
Pamela - everything is being shut down here on the west coast..........amusement parks, concerts, the emmys cancelled........wow
sen - even here in germany things changed today....
DAvid - Argghh... Troy, you mean I've been cursing out the wrong man?
TomNine - The disruption of daily life is a goal of terrorism.
* sen hopes his flight on thursday will be OK
* Pamela senses this is NOT GOOD in the long term.............to say the least.....
Tre': back - Troy - that's just it, though - DeMilia always *says* that "it's not me, I'm just following orders", but the fact remains that HE is the one who cancelled the '99 Ms. Olympia. He is the one who made the call to Hansen's to cancel their sponsorship and unfortunately, there was no legal recourse for the show's promoter.
Troy - Tre' look at the shap most are coming in, they would need to be leaner to be fitness,, and what about fitness then becomes figure?. you can see the righting on the wall man, but they women that love BB will go on and do there own thing, if it gets bad that might be the push they need? yes
CaptainCorc - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:21pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, CaptainCorc, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Amidst a skirl of bagpipes, the Captain reels in
DAvid - I think they're worried about 'copycats' more than more of the same.
M.C. - this act was probably to punish the U.S. for it's support of Israel
sen - Hi Captn
CaptainCorc - Holy Cow!!!
Ginny - helloCC
Stu - Hi, CC
CaptainCorc - Hi, everybody.
TomNine - Cap, hello.
M.C. - Bin Laden said he would strike the U.S.
TomNine - MC, not everything is about Israel.
Tre': back - Tom - we cannot allow this to change the way we live our lives...and I, for one, refuse to. Sure, I'll get frisked at the airport, but that's a small thing. For the most part, I will not change the way I live and love.
CaptainCorc - Some news flash said he wasn't responsible, MC, but who knows?
Troy - Tre' the Ms O was fucked as soon as they said it would be in LA, they can't get people to watch male BB pro shows there.. the Ironman wants to lower it money because of lack of crowd..
sen - Egypt warned the usa weeks ago about something like that if they dont do more for the conversations between israel and palestina
M.C. - I know that, but I believe this was
Tre': back - Troy - I hate figure - and I hope Jim Manion is reading this - figure sucks, and the fans and REAL athletes hate it.
DAvid - phew, thanks Tre'. Venting my spleen at the wrong target always makes me feel guilty. Then again DeMelia wa always saying that as a promoter he couldn't sell tickets but then he didn't do much promoting.
TomNine - Tre, that is what I am saying. By giving in to panic we are doing what the terrorists want.
sen - Arafat and the aphganistan terrorist leader in parkistan both said they are sad about it.....
M.C. - Same as the attack on the Cole
CaptainCorc - I suspect heads will roll in the spook department.
M.C. - The Embassies in Africa
sen - sadly many heads will actually role........
DAvid - Spook central has gotten gadget happy instead of relying on human intelligence.
CaptainCorc - I'm afraid so sen. From what I've heard, those towers were fully occupied.
Troy - Tre' I do think in the next 5 years FBB as we know it will be no more, there will be fitness and figure, Kim made it look like even the biggest hardest FBB can do fitness, so maybe NABBA,WPF,WABBA so on will take up the girls or the girls will run there own shows? they could not be smaller than the JT..
sen - nothing else on TV or radio here for 6 hours now...and yes Captn..... it happened 9:15 all just started to work.....
CaptainCorc - Yeah. An amazing attack.
Tre': back - David - he didn't want to sell it, but the thing ALL the IFBB pro bb women should see is that the IFBB wants nothing to do with them. The only reason D does it now is that he can sell extra tiks out in Vegas and he prevents anyone else from having any "control" over the women...much less allowing them to have it for themselves.
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from sen
Troy - O'h well, time to got work, Tre' we should start the 20 shows a year thing we were talking about the other day man,,
Clepsydra - I'm just ticking along 8:27pm
sen - it was really perfect planned...that makes it even worth as the CIA should have be aware of that....
TomNine - See ya, Troy.
sen - they do too much buisness spooking I guess
Stu - Cya, Troy...BTW, did the package arrive?
sen - bye Troy
Troy - Tre' is right, the only reason for the IFBB still having Pro FBB is because if they did not someone else might and do a good job and that would be money they don't get..
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Troy, come back soon.
Troy - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:28pm)
Clepsydra - Bye, cobber
M.C. - bye Troy
Bert - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:28pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Bert, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
Bert - Colour changed
TomNine - Bert, hello.
Tre': back - Troy - you know how much I love the "bigger than fitness, but not quite bodybuilder" look, but this is total bullshit - I intend to support the REAL women bodybuilders as much as I can and the first step is to get them all in contact with one another so they can discuss their future. If McVicar and Skye Ryland want to stay in the IFBB, fine, but women like Lesa Lewis and Christine Envall and Iris Kyle should tell the IFBB administrators to have a nice day.
sen - Hi Bert
M.C. - hello bert
Pamela - Has anyone seen Redd Mary? NICE!!! I just decided to check out my new "neighbor" board.......saw her photos......yummy!
Bert - Hi all
Stu - Hi Bert!
TomNine - Redd has a board? Cool!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
Pamela - Everyone probably knows by now how much I like VERY BIG women.....
Tre': back - Does she have a site, Pam?
Bert - What a bad/ said day
M.C. - agreed bert
Clepsydra - Ting; one bell on the First Watch 8:30pm
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
* sen is lucky he didnt see any pictures yet of ppl celebrating today, and some really did :(
Pamela - she has new pics on DTV.......
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
TomNine - http://www.TheValkyrie.com/picthumb/r/reddmary/index00.htm
DAvid - Me too Pam.
Pamela - and a new message board next to mine................perhaps she has a site......I'll have to ask!
Bert - I have looking the whole evening on the news here, I have there no words for
TomNine - http://www.reddmary.com/
sen - there are no Bert.....
Ginny - hi Bert, brb
Tre': back - no one has interviewed Clinton yet?
Clepsydra -
Pamela - The bigger the better.....so long as the lady looks healthy.......and she need not be shreaded.......I like a little soft, feminine curve on a lady
Bert - Right Sen
DAvid - It's going to be a sad day tomorrow at work. I'll look out the lunchroom window and the skyline won't be right.
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from M.C.
Bert - Hello Ginny
Pamela - ooooohhhhh...............mary does MASSAGE!!! Cool! I'd like her to massage me......there's nothing better than a strong lady with a gentle touch
Tre': back - Pam - I have little soft, feminine curves (where muscle used to be!)
Clepsydra - M.C., you have a new Private message from sen
M.C. - gaily, they said the plane crashed into the Army part of the Pentagon...if that helps
Pamela - Hmmmmm Tre...........I prefer it on a woman though............actually I LIKE it when men are skinny or soft cause' I can train them and mold them into a masterpeice!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
DAvid - Fom what I've heard the section of the Pentagon had just undergone renovations and wasn't completly occupied.
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Tre': back - Pam - but why train me in the gym? Why not mold me into the perfect little boy-bitch for your Mistress?
M.C. - I can't believe the World Trade Center is gone
Pamela - I like your thinking Tre'!
Tre': back - Now Boomer's going to be pissed - baseball just got cancelled for the day
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
* Tre': back strikes a peace accord with Mini-Mistress Pam... (hehe)
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - The Goodyear blimp could be the next terror platform.
Pamela - If you really want to strike a BETTER peace accord, tell me about Big Heather! Yummy!
Tre': back - Pam - but if there were 3 of us, who would be second-in-command? You or me?
Stu - Just heard from the last of my NYC contacts...he was in court in Queens, couldn't get a subway back to Manhattan...he and a friend wound up in Stamford, CT., now trying to get to Riverdale
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Pamela - ME!
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
DAvid - with Bruce Dern at the controls.
Pamela - I'm most into male punishment!
TomNine - DA, terrorists watch movies too!
Stu - I really have to add that book to my Thomas Harris collection
TomNine - The remake would have Keanu Reeves.
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from sen
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Tre': back - Pam - sounds good! Well...let me just tell you that Big Heather D is every bit as yummy as you imagine...and she now looks better than EVER - and can *still* bench 500 lbs
sen - and Harrison Ford as the President ?
Clepsydra - "One word sums up probably the responsibility of any Governor, and that one word is 'to be prepared'." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr., 12/6/93
DAvid - I was at the Awefilms shoot with Heather. Damn that is one well put together woman.
Pamela - 500 POUNDS!!! That's 5 lean Pams!!!
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Tre': back - I can bench almost one lean Pam! hehe
Pamela - She's really sexy.........just something about her........and it goes WAY beyond her bigness.....something in her eyes....
Stu - I can sit on any bench
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
boomer - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:44pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, boomer, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hello, it's the Big Bicep lover
* Pamela can hardly bench 50-60 pounds!
boomer - hello all
TomNine - Boomer, hello.
Pamela - hello boom!
Stu - Hi Boomer
M.C. - boomer, you're all right !!!
Bert - Hi Boomer
M.C. - all chatters are now accounted for
boomer - luckily not in the city, but could see the smoke from work
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
boomer - i have this intense desire to go and beat the crap out of somebody
Tre': back - Pam - you will LOVE her eyes - so BLUE...very striking
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Boomer
Clepsydra - sen, you have a new Private message from Pamela
boomer - yo diana
sen - Hi Boomer
Ginny - hi boomer
DAvid - Hi boomer
Tre': back - Pam - I lied...I bench about 60, too, so you and I are about the same
TomNine - http://www.sddayspa.com/michelle/michelle.htm
Pamela - I have seen them in closeup pics and I saw the color and almost creamed!
boomer - and i dont want to hear any bullshit about bringing the responsible parties in for trial
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from sen
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from Ginny
boomer - manhattan is completely shut down, all bridges and tunnels are closed, not sure if subways are up and running yet
Diana the Valkyrie - I'd guess they need blood donors, boomer
CaptainCorc - Hi boomer.
Pamela - t9........michelle is pretty but I like em' BIGGER!!!
boomer - brb, at work
Huw - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:47pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Huw, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Tre': back - People keep talking about "financial resources" - folks, this wasn't an "expensive" job at all. How much does a plane ticket cost? They could easily have smuggled cheap automatic weapons onto the planes...in fact, a single person could have done the job on each plane
M.C. - and baseball games were cancelled
Huw - hello all
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
CaptainCorc - Good call, Diana. NY mayor says that's the best thing people can do.
Ginny - hi huw
Huw - pam do you know of claire richards from steps?
TomNine - Pam, sorry, I thought the promise of tantric massage would sway you.
sen - hi huw
Bert - Hello Huw
Huw - ginny long time no chat
Clepsydra - It's later than you think 8:48pm
Tre': back - all the letter subways are running
CaptainCorc - Talk about screwing with the American way of life, MC.
TomNine - Huw, hello.
M.C. - hi Huw
sen - tantic massage ? mmmmmmmmm
Pamela - oH I like a massage from her but, I'd MUCH prefer one from certain OTHER ladies!
Stu - Hi HUw
Pamela - never heard of clarie.....
Ginny - yes huw, been awhile for us
Huw - how are all the americans holding up?
Pamela - better now that I know Saka is ok huw.......
TomNine - Huw, the panic should level off in a day or two.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
Mike B - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:50pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Mike B, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
M.C. - the psycological scars will last for years
Stu - Hi Mike!
Bert - Hello Mike B
Huw - pam here is claire
Tre': back - Mike....
Mike B - Hello all
DAvid - Still worried about a couple of people. I know one is probably ok but I'm not sure about another.
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Huw - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/clairebw.jpg
Pamela - huw?
M.C. - hello Mike
Mike B - Hi Bert, Hi Tre'
DAvid - Hi Mike B.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Mike
Ginny - hi mike
Mike B - Hi M.C.
Moe3563 - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:52pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Moe3563, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Huw - diana the link show a cross where the pic should be
Moe3563 - Hello all...
Mike B - Hi David, Ginny, DV ... everyone else
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
M.C. - doesn't wiseguy work somewhere in N.Y.
Stu - Hi Moe
Diana the Valkyrie - I disagree, Tom, the media will keep it going
M.C. - Hello Moe
Huw - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/clairebw2.jpg
TomNine - Mike and Moe, hello.
Huw - here is claire with some muscle
Ginny - thank you
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Moe
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Bert - Hello Moe3563
Huw - my first morphed image
Ginny - hi moe
Mike B - Hey Tom ... Hi Moe
Pamela - clarie is VERY pretty facially but, I LIKE BIG!!!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
Pamela - Morphed? you mean it's an enhancement?
TomNine - huw, who is the skinny chick?
Moe3563 - How's everyone doing???
Ginny - just peacht moe
M.C. - shocked and sad, moe
Julia - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:55pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Julia, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Redheads Rule!
Julia - Colour changed
TomNine - Miss Julia, hello.
Bert - Hello Julia
M.C. - hi Julia
Ginny - hi Julia
Mike B - What M.C. said, Moe, but add angry
Julia - Hi, just wanted to drop in for a moment
Mike B - Hello Julia
sen - Hi Julia
Moe3563 - I'm with you, M.C. & Mike...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Julia
Huw - how is this pam?
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/cbw3.jpg
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:56pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
* Huw falls to his knees as julia see him
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from DAvid
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Pamela - still too skinny huw.....
Bert - Hello Jabber
TomNine - jabs, wb.
Julia - Get up Huw,,,
M.C. - hello jabber
Pamela - she just has tiny bones........I like a big frame.......
Julia - hey jabs, long time no talk
Clepsydra - I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine. 8:57pm
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from gaily
Clepsydra - DAvid, you have a new Private message from Huw
-jabber - Yes, hello again...
Pamela - Hey Jabb and Juila!!
Ginny - hi jabs
* Huw gets up and dust his knees
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
M.C. - is the Navy base where you work out on Alert, Julia ?
Huw - tell ya what pam, i'll do a story for you on claire becoming bigger ok
TomNine - Huw, keep practicing with the enhancements.
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - i will t9
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
-jabber - boomer is here? How are things going where you are boomer???
Julia - Yes MC,, so is Hector,,,,
M.C. - all commercial flights are grounded until at least noon tomorrow
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Pamela - that would be cool huw.........she still has that supermodel face though!
Huw - in israel, this thing has hit hard then
Stu - Hi Julia, Jabber
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from gaily
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Julia
Hey Stu - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 8:59pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Hey Stu, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - Ting-ting; two bells on the First Watch 9:00pm
Hey Stu - What happened?
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Hey Stu, come back soon.
Hey Stu - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:00pm)
Huw - yo stu,
Pamela - I like women a little on the rough side so I can groom them and pamper them.......clarie is too "perfect" she doen't need anything done!
Mike B - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:00pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Mike B, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
* Huw wonders if everyone is logging on because there is nothing else but news on the tv about NY
-jabber - Pamela, I'm glad this little "incident" today hasn't affected your sex drive or need to incessantly talk about it...
Tre': back - I like Pam's role!
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - she just needs to have big muscles yes?
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
DAvid - life goes on?
-jabber - gaily is here too?
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:02pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Tre': back - I'm thinking of phoning up some woman for a session today.
-jabber - Yes Tre', I did, thanks for your concern - I've been on the phone and talking with folks all day (guess Ulrich is disappointed )
M.C. - gaily has a relative that works in the Pentagon
Tre': back - hey Julia - I didn't see you there, sis
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from gaily
M.C. - she hasn't heard from her
Tre': back - yeah, he was pissed that I made all the pics so small, but the reason for that was to be able to get them all to DtV as quickly as possible
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Andrulla - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:04pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Andrulla, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Chins up, it's the Vampire
Diana the Valkyrie - A parcel arrived from you today, jabs (I haven't opened it yet)
TomNine - Andrulla! Hello.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Andrulla
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Ginny - hi Andrulla
Pamela - Hi Andrulla!
M.C. - hello Andrulla
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Bert - Hello Andrulla
Stu - Hi Andrulla!
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
DAvid - Hi Andrulla.
-jabber - Thanks DtV - I'm delaying my next parcel to be sent until the end of the week - I think that makes the most sense under these circumstances, right?
Stu - Tre, Jabber: We have to make up a special package just for Ulrich...nothing but feet and jars of toe jam
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Diana the Valkyrie - Good idea, jabs, the airlines will be in confusion for a while
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Julia
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
Pamela - @ toejam!!
boomer - i'm back
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - booms, how are things where you are???
Stu - WB, Boomer
boomer - can still see the smoke on the horizon jabs
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Ginny - wb boomer
boomer - george w better have some major league brass balls for what he has to do now
-jabber - Do you work in Westchester County too? Any problems with phone lines there?
boomer - i work in the bronx, phones have been on and off all day
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
-jabber - Last question addressed to booms (pretty obvious though)
Tre': back - It's so weird to watch "Law & Order" right now...they often tape there in Tribeca...right within the fallout zone
Stu - It's hard to watch the towers come down without crying
boomer - cell phones? forget about it
Huw - how's about those two i just sent ya
Tre': back - Andrulla - we're trying to convince all the women bodybuilders to boycott the IFBB. Will you join and help lead the movement?
boomer - f###ng cia better earns its money on this one
-jabber - Stu, it looks like a real life "Independence Day" special effect - absolutely amazing in a horrifying sickening way.
M.C. - the cell phone antennas were on the top of the trade center
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from gaily
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from -jabber
boomer - spielberg couldnt have filmed it any more graphically, was watching live when the 2nd plane hit
Huw - pam my last postwas to you
Stu - You're right about that, Jabber
-jabber - Andrulla hello - and gaily - you not talkin' to me today? hmm
brooksie - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:10pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, brooksie, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Huw - hello andrulla
boomer - reminded me of when the shuttle blew up, just couldnt take my eyes off the tv screen
M.C. - building no.7 is on fire
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from gaily
brooksie - Hi All!
Bert - Hello Brooksie
-jabber - brooksie, hello - not a happy day for you to return though...
M.C. - hi brooksie
Huw - hey everyone, i met christine envall on sunday last
boomer - hey brooksie
stacy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:11pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, stacy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Ginny
boomer - hello stacy
Andrulla - Sorry, I didnt read what you guys wrote, I got distracted, say again please..
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Huw - hi stacy
Bert - Hello Stacy
-jabber - wb stacy...
Stu - WB, Stacy!
Mike B - Hi Brooksie, boomer, Stacy
M.C. - welcome back, stacy
oriole2k - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:11pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, oriole2k, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - It's one third of FemSport
stacy - hello everyone
brooksie - Hi Stacy!
Pamela - BROOKSIE!!!
boomer - hello to mike b
Huw - have you been here before stacy?
boomer - hey cal
Stu - Hi Oriole
Mike B - Hi O2K
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
oriole2k - man, everyone is in here...
stacy - yes, huw, i have. have u?
Ginny - hi stacy and orio hows home? not so good
oriole2k - Stu, it's complete lunacy here...
-jabber - O2K, hello - how's things where you are?
Stu - Was who here before Stacy, HUW?
M.C. - 21 chatters in the room
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Julia
Tre': back - Oriole!!!!! Thank God you're alright
boomer - i'm stuck at work waiting for a security guard to show up so i can go home, the store closed hours ago
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, O2
oriole2k - Crazy, very crazy ... took me 4 hours to get home
Huw - i have, i just haven't seen you here before, you a fbb or an admirer?
Stu - I believe it Oriole. Are you still at the office? I left work around 11
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
Ginny - ori i got sent home as well
boomer - man i wish we could bring back ronnie reagan to deal with this, some piece of shit country would be a parking lot by christmas
Julia - Ori, glad you are alright and made it home safely
oriole2k - all the highways (major) are closed here .. I saw the crash on I-395
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from -jabber
M.C. - another building is getting ready to go
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from gaily
stacy - huw, i am a fbb.
oriole2k - it was surreal .. beyond imagination
Huw - pam you have had some pms from me
Stu - Oops, I got home easily, Oriole...The only problem was when I got off at Rte 7
boomer - where mc, in ny?
Huw - do you have a gallery here at DtV?
stacy - i saw tre in here and i HAD to come in....
Ginny - another crash ori
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
stacy -
oriole2k - I am home now - thank god...
stacy - huw, yes
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
Andrulla - I been trying to phone folks there the lines are constantly busy.
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
boomer - and god knows where that plane that crashed in pa was headed to destroy
Mike B - boomer, I'm having faith in Dubya for now. I think he'll respond appropriately
Clepsydra - "I have made good judgments in the past. I have made good judgments in the future." ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr
Pamela - Colour changed
oriole2k - Well, a plane crashed into the Pentagon - all lines are jammed everywhere...
Huw - what is your full anme pls so i can go and look at you?
Andrulla - Tre, whats that you saying bout the fbbs and the IFBB?
Stu - And I'm still sitting here waiting for the caffeine, Stacy...arrggghr!!!!!!!
-jabber - boomer, they "think" it may have been headed to Camp David...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from brooksie
M.C. - it's one of the other buildings in the World Trade center. Called no.7
Ginny - that I know ori
boomer - mike, i want blood flowing in the sand somewhere, i dont want to hear any shit about bringing them to justice via trial
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from Tre': back
stacy - andrulla: hello, tre is referring to ben weider's recent statements about the future of the sport
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Ginny - Angela just got home minute
Huw - yo mc how are you holding
boomer - the white house got what it considered a viable threat, thats why they evacuated it so early
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Julia
Andrulla - What was said Stacy?
stacy - stu: ...i can't keep u waiting so long, sorry!
Clepsydra - Julia, you have a new Private message from gaily
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from brooksie
oriole2k - it's complete mayhem here, I can imagine NYC being far worse...
Mike B - agreed, booms ... find out who's responsible and kill him and everyone who he's ever known
Andrulla - Where are you at Cookie?
Tre': back - Andrulla - "Now is the time for all good women bodybuilders to leave the IFBB." - In response to Ben Weider's recent statements about women's pro bb becoming "fitness bodybuilding"
Clepsydra - The time is out of joint 9:16pm
stacy - there is something on the www.getbig.com that ben weider said...re. the fact that there will be 'fitness bodybuilding'...not like the IFBB standards we have now
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
* Huw daren't freeze the screen for fear of loosing his place in the conversation
boomer - i think for the first time in my life i know what people felt like when pearl harbor was bombed, but at least then we knew who did it
Clepsydra - Time for a change 9:16pm
* Julia would still like to know what the Hell Fitness BBin' is
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from brooksie
-jabber - agreed booms...
boomer - we have to adopt the old russian style, kill one of ours, we kill 10 of yours
oriole2k - I'm in Maryland - I was adjacent to the highway near the Pentagon when I saw the plane crash...
Huw - fbb's with the slimline bodies of fitness women
Diana the Valkyrie - You'll find out, Boomer, it's a matter of police work now
CaptainCorc - Exactly, boomer.
Stu - By head is splitting from caffeine withdrawal, Stacy!!!!!! (how's that for a guilt trip?)
boomer - adjust for inflation, we kill 1000 for every one dead
stacy - tre: when i saw u at the north american's i had no idea to what u were referring. sorry if i acted aloof about that.
Andrulla - So, they talking gymnastic routines?
Mike B - It's not even a justice thing. At this point we have to kill enough people to make anyone who ever thinks about hurting us realize he'll also be destroying his own country
M.C. - http://www.getbig.com/iview/benweider01.htm
TomNine - Mike, Boomer, I'm heading out to the streets with a baseball bat to smash some heads, you guys wanna go with?
Huw - O2 was it a passenger plane like they say?
oriole2k - I work maybe 10-15 minutes from the Pentagon...
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Julia
CaptainCorc - A sign of our dismal times.
stacy - andrulla: there will be a fitness routine, yes
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
M.C. - there's the link, Andrulla
boomer - all the buildings were hit by commercial airliners
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Mike B - Can you find the right heads, T9?
oriole2k - Yep, Huw - all 4 that crashed were passenger planes...
stacy - u know what is so sad....u are ms. olympia and u are having to find this out in a damn chat room
boomer - tom, your joking around, i really feel like doing it
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, if you kill the wrong people, that won't discourage the ones who actually did it.
Huw - so who thinks which group did it then?
sen - good night
Clepsydra - Cheerio, sen, come back soon.
sen - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:18pm)
Clepsydra - Bye, Sen
Huw - night sen
Tre': back - Stacy - no problem, baby...I just don't want you thinking that "becoming an IFBB pro" is any sort of goal anymore. Those days, sadly, are being taken away from you
Ginny - nite sen
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from -jabber
TomNine - Mike, it didn't sound like you cared if the heads deserved it or not. the whole thing is about making ourselves feel better, right?
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
stacy - shows how screwed up our sport is....women like u, andrulla, should be told first and offered a say in our sport
boomer - gotta think bin laden was behind it, he has the only organization big enough and financed enough for it
oriole2k - Huw, the plane at the Pentagon crashed in a parking lot, but the debris crashed onto the side of the Pentagon...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from brooksie
M.C. - that's what the chatroom is all about Stacy
Mike B - All the area colleges here closed today and the only reason I can think of is that they're concerned about the safety of Middle Eastern students
Tre': back - Andrulla - this is sad that no one informed you. They should've sent you a note - "lose all your muscle like Kim C" did before you come back
Stu - Tre, I sent the link to Trudy, Maria, and a few others.
stacy - tre: i gave that up when the national level judges kept giving me screwed up answers as to my placements last year
boomer - if i were an arab in brooklyn i would stay in the house for a couple of days
oriole2k - boomer, there are others, but they are at the top...
stacy - m.c: what do u mean?
* Pamela sheds a tear for FBB's everyone knows how much I adore big women :-( I'd hate to think of a world without them
Ginny - Bert did you fall out?
Mike B - It's about self-defense, Tom ... There must be a deterrent
Tre': back - Boomer - what finances?? This operation could've been pulled off for about 1200 dollars!
Huw - i think that all the immigrants here in the uk will be staying indoors as well
boomer - but if we find that someone, namely saddam hussein backed him up on it, then i hope for their sake that allah takes care of them in the afterlife
Bert - No Ginny, I'm still here
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, "hit me and I'll kill some guy 10000 miles away from you" isn't a deterrent
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from stacy
-jabber - Tre', $900 if they used Priceline.com
Huw - pam did you see the pic link i sent you in pms
Diana the Valkyrie - You have to find the criminals first
Andrulla - Sorry, Im a bit behind here, just reading that stuff on getbig.
Ginny - Okat Angelas home I am just waiting to hear from the ones in SF
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - in amongst the wreckage diana
oriole2k - I just hope there's not a second round to this...
Tre': back - Jabber is right!
Bert - But i'm quiet about what happened today in America. I can don't nbelieve
Mike B - If you make the country into a parking lot, it is. I'm tired of us being the ones who play by some rules
boomer - how about this diana, we kill them all, that way we have peace in the middle east and get the killers at the same time
stacy - brb
Huw - a bit extreme boomer
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Pamela - yes huw.........they were taking a long time to load though.........i'll have to look later!
Clepsydra - Time is a great healer 9:22pm
Bert - That's good Ginny, I hope you hear fast from the other in SF
boomer - a bit extreme huw? have you seen the fucking pictures from ny
M.C. - that's what's going to be on the back of everyone's mind for a long time to come, oriole
Clepsydra - When I find myself in times of trouble, 9:22pm
-jabber - DtV, if we kill the wrong folks first, that WILL be a deterrent - it means we're willing to kill in retaliation...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Diana the Valkyrie - Boomer, so you know it was some guy in the middle east?
Ginny - me too, the city life goes nuts when theres a tragedy
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from brooksie
boomer - i'm telling you the russians had it right, you hurt us, you pay
Tre': back - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:23pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Tre': back, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Diana the Valkyrie - Jabber, if you kill the wrong people, then the guys that actually did it, will be laughing
Huw - only what is on cnn and they haven't missed much
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Tre': back - The thing is...they've already "gotten away with it"
-jabber - For a little while, DtV, until we kill them too...
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
M.C. - suiside attacks don't usually occur elsewhere, Diana
boomer - somewhere in this world somebody is having a big laugh and a big party
Mike B - The United States is capable of the greatest mass destruction possible. Use of that will secure ourselves from this in the future. They have to know that if they throw a snowball at the big kid, the big kid is going to kill them and their families and friends
Tre': back - Colour changed
boomer - we have to mussolini them, drag them thru the streets and put their head on a lamppost
Diana the Valkyrie - Well, if you don't care who you kill for this, how about you just kill a couple of billion people, that should do the trick.
Julia - ok, i am going to go spend some time with hector before he has to go to work,,, and he WILL be taking his bullet proof vest with him even if i have to cram it up his ass on his way out the door,,,,,,,,,,,
Clepsydra - Baby, baby, baby you're out of time 9:24pm
Huw - i think that we should hit every known home of all the ones we suspect and then see what info we can get
Mike B - DV if you kill enough people, it will include the right people
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:24pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
boomer - if anybody gets upset, we shoot them where we stand
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from stacy
M.C. - they're promised 70 virgins in heaven if they die a martyr's death
Huw - bye julia
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Pamela
boomer - mc, then i hope they have a good time in heaven
Clepsydra - It's later than you think 9:25pm
Julia - bye everyone,,,,,,,
-jabber - Okay, this is a Historic Day - I AGREE WITH MikeB!
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, to be sure of killing the right people, that ups the ante to about six billion
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Julia, come back soon.
Julia - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:25pm)
Clepsydra - ...
-jabber - Or he just agreed with me - order not important...
Bert - Bye Julia
Mike B - Why not kill a couple of billion people DV? Far as I'm concerned, ANYTHING that scares the shit out of the rest of the world is just fine
M.C. - bye julia
Huw - jabber, if you could pick who would it be arafat or that usama bloke
Ginny - ciao Julia
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, will there be any Americans in that couple of billion people?
Mike B - DV, I think wiping out the Middle East would do the trick
-jabber - Huw, I truly don't know at this point - I can't make a pick - yet...
boomer - arafat doesnt have the balls for this, my guess is bin laden backed by either hussein or qadafi
TomNine - Arafat has already denounced the attack.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from brooksie
Huw - just pull out of the peace talks and they would do it themselves
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, you don't even know that it was organised outside the USA yet.
boomer - bin laden should have been killed awhile ago, i'm sick of being the nice guys
Huw - of course he would
Diana the Valkyrie - Remember Oklahoma
Stu - Got to go...see you all I hope
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Stu, come back soon.
Stu - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:27pm)
Clepsydra - Cheerio
-jabber - Take care Stu..
Mike B - You don't understand, DV ... this isn't an intellectual issue for me. I want revenge. I want safety
Bert - Bye Stu
Ginny - later Stu
M.C. - bye stu
boomer - i want blood in the sand
-jabber - DtV I think we DO remember Oklahoma - that's why "we" the USA - haven't started bombing other countries randomly...
Huw - yet this bin laden had an interview with a cnn expert in 93 what was he thinking, the perfect opportunity to waste the bloke there and then
Diana the Valkyrie - Mike, you get safety by dealing with the villains, not by not worrying about who did it
Clepsydra - brooksie, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - bye stu
M.C. - it's natural to feel angry in this situation. If you don't feel anger you're not really human
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from stacy
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Huw - how long was it before they found tim mcveiigh
Mike B - DV, the villains traditionally get their edge by our (U.S.) wanting to not kill innocent people
Tre' - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:28pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Tre', welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Huw
boomer - mcveigh hated the government , he attacked a federal building
Diana the Valkyrie - Sure, Mike, but there's no point in bombing a country 5000 miles away from the origin of the attack
-jabber - Huw, it took so long because no one knew how to spell his name.
M.C. - anger borne out of frustration
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Diana the Valkyrie - Step one is, find out who did it.
Mike B - We could have killed Saddam, had we been willing to kill innocent people. But we didn't. The killers are counting on that. We MUST make that strategy no longer effective
Bert - I have to go, sleeptime for me..... take care for all the americans
Andrulla - Just read it... Its not so much news to me. I spoke to Joe Weider after winning the Olympia, and he was already telling me how his brother Ben was trying hard for the Olympis, and that the women were not acceptable to the Olympic commitee cause of the drugs.. Ha ha... So they guys are eh! He even explained to me, that he loved the bodybuilders and encouraged the males, and females to develop to the max if they so wished. He also understands that some women are very mesomorphic, and build muscle easily.. But the men that run the Olympic thing, are regular insecure men that are threatend by the women with muscle...
TomNine - Piling up more innocent deaths will only increase the strength of our adversaries.
Huw - bye bert
Mike B - There's a point in it, DV, if the country 5000 miles away organized the attack
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting; three bells on the First Watch 9:30pm
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, Mike, but not if they didn't
-jabber - Thanks Bert, later...
brooksie - I'm out of here, too. See you all later! Tre - email me about FVF
Andrulla - Tre, did you discuss it with any of the other Top lady contestants?
M.C. - Some people say that the firebombing of Dresden - not a military target - was Churchill's revenge for the blitz
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from stacy
Huw - what we don't need is words, actions speak louder, the right action in the right place will send the right message
* Pamela likes mesomorphic women!!!
boomer - diana, i want to be rational about this, we find out who did it, then destroy them completely, every man woman and child
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Cheerio, brooksie, come back soon.
brooksie - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:31pm)
Diana the Valkyrie - Boomer, what will you do if it turns out to be some lunatic US militia?
Andrulla - No one owned up yet boomer?
Huw - boomer that is called genocide and it didn't work for milosevic
Mike B - DV, obviously (or not, I guess), I'm talking about dealing with those behind the attack. BUT, I'm not talking about ANY effort to spare innocents in the process. We've lost innocents and they must be avenged
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
M.C. - bye brooksie
boomer - diana, then we eradicate them this time
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
boomer - huw, its not genocide, as far as i'm concerned somebody committed an act of war today
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Tre'
DAvid - Adrulla more people have said they didn't do it.
Diana the Valkyrie - Boomer, you'd eradicate the US if the attack came from the US? Sounds wrong to me.
-jabber - Agreed booms...
Huw - that will just fuel the conspiracy ppl boomer
boomer - so far all the groups even bin laden are denying all responsibility
M.C. - Diana, most of America is in shock...who wouldn't be
Huw - true boomer
Mike B - We'll know that soon enough, DV ... but I expect it was not a U.S. group
Ginny - I agree with boomer
boomer - of course our friends in hamas while denying they did it said american policy was to blame
Tre' - Andrulla - yes, I spoke with some of the women at the North Americans, but only 2 of them are pros. One of them is sincere about getting her own thing going...OUTSIDE the IFBB, which is good
Clepsydra - Diana the Valkyrie, you have a new Private message from M.C.
Diana the Valkyrie - MC, the whole world is in shock. Those were *my* people as well as yours
-jabber - I'll expect it "wasn't" a US group, also...
Mike B - Boomer's point + an act of war + is the key point.
Tre' - I keep getting booted, folks - so if I miss your question, please hit me with it agai
Diana the Valkyrie - Very probably it wasn't a US group, I agree.
Huw - once america has recovered, there will be hell to pay on the group responsible
Tre' - Colour changed
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
-jabber - Tre', who are you callin' "agai" sucka???
boomer - americans are a funny lot, we take a lot of shit, but once pushed to the brink we do what needs to be done
DAvid - I don't think a militia group would go after the WTC, it's not their kind of target.
Mike B - People in some Middle Eastern country are dancing in the streets. Personally, I want those people dead.
Ginny - agreed again
boomer - i agreed with da, the militia would have attacked the pentagon, but not the wtc
Huw - i fully back the idea of bush "to punish those responsible"
Diana the Valkyrie - Dunno, boomer. When people are that loony, I don't like to predict how they think
Huw - america is just defending it's home
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
Mike B - What else pisses me off ... My first digital camera came today and I haven't even opened the box
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Huw - pam don't load those pics i gave you they will be small
Diana the Valkyrie - Tre, of the women want something other than "fitness bodybuilding", then they should organise for it
Diana the Valkyrie - What camera, Mike?
boomer - i should have taken a pic of the smoke in the sky, it was unbelievable
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Mike B - Olympus C3040, DV
boomer - uh oh, mike b goes digital
Clepsydra - Bert, you have a new Private message from Ginny
* M.C. will 'try' to get some sleep. Maybe when I wake up this will all have been just a bad dream
Diana the Valkyrie - Sounds serious, how many pixels?
Clepsydra - Cheerio, M.C., come back soon.
M.C. - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:37pm)
boomer - but surprisingly mike b joins the jabber faction and doesnt get a mavica
-jabber - 3.04 megapixels, DTV...
Huw - bye MC
Mike B - boomer, I got this cause my friend had one at WSE and I used his ... was wonderful
-jabber - boomer, the world is full of surprises...
Bert - Take care .
stacy - dv: but the problem is financing it and the 'fear'/paranoia that most girls have b/c we are so freakin' brainwashed that the NPC and IFBB is our road to 'fame'..
boomer - maybe mike b can be the treasurer of the jabber defense committee
Clepsydra - Tre': back, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Mike B - DV, it's a 3.34 megapixel
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Bert
-jabber - No thanks booms...
Harmony - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:39pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Harmony, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Diana the Valkyrie - Yowser, good one. What optical zoom?
Andrulla - Problem is even if we learn who done it, they already did the damage. Nothing can change that. The real loonies, arent the ones that went down with those planes, but the ones that compel, and brain wash their own kind to do such evil.. Find them, they are the cowards, that hide.. sick fucks.. Im so sad . Im worried, somuch about my good friends out there. Cant get hold of them on th ephone still
Bert - bye everyone, and take care
Harmony - \colour white
boomer - hes a known fundraiser jabs, could be a good man to have
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Bert, come back soon.
Bert - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:39pm)
Tre' - Diana - I like fitness bodybuilding. Hell, I even helped put it onstage last year...and again next weekend. But I still believe there should be a stage for REAL women bodybuilders and I intend to support that as well.
Andrulla - see ya bert
Ginny - night Bert
boomer - andrulla, forget about making phone calls here at the moment, especially into nyc
Mike B - not a great zoom ... 3x optical, 2.5x digital
Huw - hi harmony
Harmony - Colour changed
Diana the Valkyrie - Stacy, there's no fame via the IFBB
Harmony - Hi all
Diana the Valkyrie - Not so good for contests, then, more for studio shots, family/friends?
Pamela - I agree with Tre' It would be HELL if there were no more massive women onstage!
Tre' - Mike B - how long does a set of batteries last?
boomer - it always fascinates me that some 70 year old leader tells the young kids to die with glory
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Harmony
-jabber - I repeat booms, no thanks - but I've occasionally agreed with him today..
Mike B - One reason I didn't choose Mavica was physical size. This is for family, vacation, stuff, also, ans smaller is easier in those cases
DAvid - Gonna go for a while.
Pamela - Tre.............not long around me! !
Clepsydra - Cheerio, DAvid, come back soon.
DAvid - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:41pm)
TomNine - Boomer, I thought you liked Reagan?
Mike B - I'm not certain, Tre ... uses both lithium and AA ... got a free AA charger and set of rechargable batteries with it, in addition to the lithium batteries
stacy - dv: i know, but u can't imagine (or maybe u can) how some of the girls regard what getting their pro card will be like....it is sad.
Len - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:41pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Len, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
boomer - okay, time to go home, will log back on from there, cya all in a bit
Clepsydra - I sat on a rug, biding my time, drinking her wine. 9:41pm
Clepsydra - Cheerio, boomer, come back soon.
boomer - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:41pm)
Clepsydra - Bye, Flatbushian
Harmony - Why can't someone organise a comp that you pay an entrance fee for which covers the costs and the prize. If it had any clout I'm sure people would pay plus getting sponsors to cover some costs?
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Andrulla - Regards the future for the real fbbs. maybe we must endevour to arrange something for ourselves. Dont even need to compete against eachother, maybe go around doing displays, and more exciting stuff like the Museum thing we did in NYC. people really appreciated that show. This way we'd get good appreciation, and not be puppets for a bunch of low-life parasites with sick egos.
-jabber - Len, welcome back - I gotta step out for a while though folks...
Diana the Valkyrie - I know, I've seen it Stacy.
Huw - bye boomer
Clepsydra - Cheerio, -jabber, come back soon.
-jabber - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:42pm)
Clepsydra - Beware the frumious Bandersnatch
TomNine - See ya, jabs.
Len - Bye -j
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - Stacy, you mean earning a pro card isn't a one-way ticket to wealth and glory?
Andrulla - Tomnine, you a real jesterer...
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Tre' - Andrulla - exactly - and the key is for you women to be in charge of it and for us fans to come out and support it
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from stacy
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Pamela - I'd support it!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Harmony - I think a comp run by FBB's for FBB's would be great and unbias.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from TomNine
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Mike B - Well, I'm gonna go now. Gail's home from work in a few. Bye all
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Mike B, come back soon.
Mike B - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 9:45pm)
Huw - bye mike b
stacy - andrulla: i love that idea...much like what doctor al has been saying all along. plus things like the WSE...that displays strength, etc. which people seem to respect more than the dieted down body.
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Harmony
stacy - tom: u are funny!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
TomNine - I agree that an "entertainment event" would be better than competitions. I'm surprised there haven't been any follow-ups to the Modern Amazon thing.
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Pamela - I personally like to see strong HEALTHY women!
Andrulla - Needs a good organiser, and then the support of the women. Maybe we can get something put out on th eweb and see how many women will be supportive of such an idea. I know that we could do some charity events, and that would get us good notice, and gain public appeal, that will get some finance comming through, and more opportunities should arrise. I mean, when I look at Lisa Lewis, I see a superheroin, that would be great on film, if the right agent saw her.. pro bbs, a waste for some of these talents.
Pamela - as you wish!
Pamela - that was for huw,,,,,
Andrulla - Too right Stacy. Im with Al,on that.
Harmony - It would be good to have a strongeswt women competition like the one they have in britain for men. Cool
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
Diana the Valkyrie - There's one coming up soon, Harmony
Andrulla - There is Healthy strong people, and healthy weak people .. so whats your point Pamela
stacy - well i am willing to do whatever. it saddens me to see this sport ruined when i know how many women have utilized it as a healthy means to better their lives.
Len - Great idea Andrulla. Lisa L truly has a super-heroine look. Too bad Hollywood is not mature enough to cast people like that, it seems
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
stacy - tre, u are in charge
Huw - yo len how goes it?
Pamela - some FBB's look the opposite of healthy..........I think it's a bit sad.........it's no offense to anyone......I respect them either way...
Andrulla - Why wait for follow-ups, someone with some intellect, and passion, plus perserver in the right direction can get it moving forward.. why we waiting folks. fbb aint ever gonna die, and no judging rules gonna make it...
Tre' - Andrulla - CP is organizing an event for next spring/summer over there...I want to help out, too. He plans to feature women bodybuilders in a similar way to what you did with Laurie last year.
stacy - let's put up a petition to get support from the girls, pro and amateur....BUT u can be sure that until nationals happens, u won't get the support of lots of the american amateurs
Len - Fine thanks (even though I might not be the Len you're thinking of...
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - My boss just called, I won't be going in to work tomorrow.
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Harmony
Tre' - Len - it isn't hollywood's fault - they have no idea who Lesa is...
Huw - lucky you tomnine
CaptainCorc - Get your ass in there anyway Tom. Show some initiative.
Huw - attention on deck
Len - Well, you can hardly say they've gone out of their way to cast fit/muscular women. Even those that are supposed be "heroine-like" are often not even close
Andrulla - Most often on contest days, the athletes are dehydrated, this is temporary,and looking gaunt from low fat levels, and the months of diet does give that appearance Pamela.
Tre' - Stacy - I'm only willing to be responsible for helping more women to "see the light" and keeping them motivated. It's up to women like you to sustain this movement...seriously. For example, we could schedule a set time at the Olympia Expo where a bunch of women bodybuilders just take over the exhibition stage -
Clepsydra - Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana 9:52pm
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Ginny
TomNine - Cap, the gates on the base will be closed to lowly non-essential personnel like me.
Andrulla - You know I will more than suport that Tre..
CaptainCorc - Tap into the computer and work at home, Tom.
Pamela - I worked in a job where I met quite a few former competitive FBB's AND males who had BAD long term problems........
Ginny - all bases locked up jere
TomNine - http://www.TheValkyrie.com/pics/w/wse2001-04/wse00070.jpg
stacy - ...problem is amateur women won't do it now tre...i mean, i am the minority and u know it!
Ginny - here
* CaptainCorc envisions FBI agents crashing through Tom's door with tech 9's spraying lead.
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
Tre' - Stacy - who needs the amateurs? Most are running scared until reality sets in...and that's fine. I say a bunch of women bodybuilders should take over the stage at the Olympia Expo, ESPECIALLY during that "Model Quest" (if that's being done again this year)
Diana the Valkyrie - Tom is non-essential?
stacy - tom: what a horrendous pic of me...
Tre' - Andrulla - CP's show or the Olympia takeover or both?
TomNine - After many years of being "essential" I am happy to let others do the hard work for a while.
stacy - count me in
TomNine - Stacy, sorry, but of the 3 pics I took of you that made it to the WSE gallery, that is my favorite.
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Harmony
Tre' - Stacy - I know...they're controlled by the promoters, trainers, and judges...no problem. I understand.
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
* stacy searches for money to finance her trip to the olympia to PAY for her ticket to yet another weider event
Tre' - The NPC should split from the IFBB and develop its own pro division. Manion could be king of the world instead of Weider. Figure has to go away, though.
TomNine - http://www.TheValkyrie.com/pics/w/wse2001-04/wse00006.jpg
stacy - tom: understood, dear thanks for sharing!
Tre' - Stacy - no, do not attend the show itself. The Expo is free, so just go to that. That's what I'm doing.
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Harmony
stacy - tom: i like that one better. i look mean! haha
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
stacy - tre: ah, good idea. thanks i will camp out there then.
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Tre' - Stacy - here's the thing - if we REALLY want to support the women, all the fans should skip the show and just hang out in the lobby and hand 55-100 dollars apiece to the women as they walk in
Andrulla - Whats ameatuer or pro got to do with it Stacy.. Come on girl. In the general public they see any amount of muscle on a femeal, and they are imnpressed.. pro status dont mean anything to them...
Huw - i was impressed when i met christine
Andrulla - The NPC is part an package with the IFBB Tre..
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from TomNine
Pamela - Andrulla............I agree......
Diana the Valkyrie - Pro status doesn't actually mean anything anyway. All it means is that one organisation sold you a certificate
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting; four bells on the First Watch 10:00pm
Andrulla - It means you get to pay the IFBB a fee to have your pro card..
Clepsydra - TomNine, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Tre' - We should NEVER put money in Wayne's pocket and expect that it's going to help Andrulla, Valentina, Lesa, Iris, etc. We should just pay the women directly!! Think of this - ALL the best women organize a boycott of all future IFBB events (the Ms I is not included, because it's a real show). Then the fans just come and give the women all the money that WOULD'VE gone to DeMilia. Thousands of dollars, each woman getting a share of it
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from Harmony
Tre' - Andrulla - and that's unfortunate, because a lot of people in charge of the NPC believe in *real* bodybuilding, you know
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Harmony
stacy - andrulla: i just mean that the amateur girls, most of us, unless we have been sufficiently 'tarnished' by the judges, are just on our fantasy quest for a pro card....for a LONG time i thought that going pro was ALL this sport was about. a great majority
Clepsydra - Time waits for no one and it won't wait for me. 10:01pm
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
stacy - oops... got cut off
TomNine - The problem with Figure is that there are too many quarter turns.
stacy - a great majority of the girls don't see the reality that u know.
Tre' - Stacy - I respect you so much because you're smart enough to know that they're never going to reward your efforts. I hope that Sheila finally now realizes the same...she should join us, "career" in bodybuilding be damned.
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from stacy
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Harmony
TomNine - A pro card is great if your dream is to compete at a higher level as an athlete. Other than that, it is meaningless. Only Ms O herself lives a life of great wealth and fame.
Andrulla - I know that Tre' except they mean it for the males.... females are too threatening outside of our own culture... Thats why I feel so strongly about doing some exhibition shows for regular folks, and admirers of art, it will be loved and appreciated, plus better still they will interview us, and see that we are real people, not just bodies... It would create more acceptance...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
stacy - people like me, annie r., sheila, michelle ivers, renee, fran, etc...(sad, the list could go on and on)...
stacy - i see colette in that mix, sadly, in the next year or so
Tre' - Andrulla - I love you! And you're still young enough to where you could someday look back and say, "Wow, I helped create this new world for women's bodybuilding." - All it takes is one...
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Harmony
Andrulla - Thats sad Stacy.. I dont wanna ruin your fantasy, but its really time to stop dreaming.. No contracts, no money, now not even acceptance... Gotta make ourselves a new mark. Turn heads outside of the teeny parasitically exploited subculture..
Clepsydra - Face up...make your stand and realise your living in the golden years 10:05pm
Tre' - Stacy - Um, I think they like Colette a LOT right now...they *want* her to become a pro, and I believe she can transcend the sport a bit
Tre' - YES! (Andrulla)
stacy - believe me, i know.....believe me...my point is, TOO many of the girls don't see the reality and won't turn their backs on the NPC
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Andrulla - Jeeez T9, wealth and fame... Fame to my admirers, which I really apprciate for all their support and interest in my career... Wealth, you talking about the 15,000 prize money? ha ha..
Clepsydra - Harmony, you have a new Private message from Huw
stacy - this is NOT to say that change can't happen, it can, just don't count on a majority of girls supporting this.
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - Andrulla, sorry, I meant being Ms O is the key to wealth and fame if you can set the Waybak Machine to the 1980s.
Andrulla - who is collette?
Diana the Valkyrie - The figure of $15,000 as the top prize should be more widely known; people don't realise how small the prizes are
stacy - i will be happy to talk to some of these girls that i know that have really felt 'abused' by the system
* Pamela has been an admirer of Andrulla for 4 years!!!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
TomNine - Would a non-competitive show featuring demonstrations be viewed as a threat to the NPC/IFBB?
Andrulla - Thankyou for that Pamela
TomNine - Colette Nelson.
Huw - andrulla, do you have the same muscularity as christine or are you bigger/smaller?
Tre' - Stacy - I'm still an NPC guy, but I'm NOT going to cover "figure", because it's bullshit. In addition, I'm also going to produce fitness strength/physique shows in Canada.
stacy - tre: colette is awesome, i love her as a person, but they are building her up and i pray that they don't let her fall...problem is...we have seen this before
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Pamela - Thank you for roasting my ex boyfriend on your board a few years ago when he made some stupid comment about your hamstring workout.............he didn't find it funny I DID!!! hehehhe!
Tre' - Tom - Yes - and I fully intend for it to be just that
Andrulla - Im lighter at present Huw. Since they had a lightweight Ms.O...
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Harmony
Huw - brb
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Huw, come back soon.
Huw - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:11pm)
Andrulla - Dont remember it Pamela...
Huw - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:11pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Huw, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Tre' - Stacy - sure, they'll make her a national champion, maybe even a pro champ someday, but THEY won't promote her. She has to do that herself, and I will say, she's one of the best at it (marketing herself).
Pamela - He was too much of an idiot..........I KNOW you wouldn't remember even if you tried! !!!
Huw - harmony my mail addy is up top
stacy - tre: as i said, figure was devised in the strategy to kill fbb that much more
Andrulla - You have a picture of her Tom
TomNine - Has Andrulla had a message board here for 4 years? It seems like only yesterday.
Pamela - Thanks anyway Andrulla............he DESERVED the humiliation...........that is why he's MY EX!
Harmony - Thanks
Huw - ok
TomNine - http://www.colettenelson.com/
Denny K - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:13pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Denny K, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Denny K - Hello All!!
Huw - hi dennyk
Andrulla - You tell me Tom, ask the guys too that would normally go to the contests, get a survey going asking what they, the fans would think of shows, exhibitions, with props,and even little theatrical plays, instead of contests.. see if they would like that..
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Denny
Andrulla - gosh, the time did fly Tom...
Clepsydra - There's a time to live and a time to die 10:14pm
TomNine - DK!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Denny K - Hello Queen!! Sad day ???
Huw - does anyone know the website address for twinlabs?
Tre' - Stacy - you know figure is bad when the FITNESS chickies hate it
Clepsydra - stacy, you have a new Private message from Denny K
Tre' - Andrulla - yes, the guys want to see the muscle on display...esp in places other than shows. Most guys who love femuscle won't even go to a show in NYC.
Pamela - Someone suggested I do figure competitions..............
TomNine - Andrulla, I'm sure an event like you described would get lots of attention.
Andrulla - Hey, Imet her, she was training with PJ at Crunch fitness in NYC. I had lunch with them both, she is a sweet person, lots of positivity too...
Huw - you have a nice figure pam!
stacy - denny, i can't pm u back, hun, but yes, it is me, stacy g.
Pamela - thanks huw!
Denny K - LEGS HERSELF???
TomNine - Yes, PJ trains with her, excellent FBB, pretty girl, great personality.
stacy - thanks denny
Andrulla - Tre, ask on the various newsgroups, see what responce we get.. Get a little stats thing set up somewhere on the site Diana?
Huw - stacy garonzik, you flexed for the louis theroux programme when he visited charles' ranch didn't you?
Denny K - My I ask Stacy......what do you do to "CUT UP" your legs?
Andrulla - Where are you living Stacy?
Diana the Valkyrie - Who will be the person running this, Andrulla?
stacy - yes, huw. the dreaded louis
TomNine - Pamela, do figure? Do you own two different bathing suits?
Huw - lindsay mulinazzi was filming there
stacy - andrulla. in pennsylvania. i live very close to sam w. and charles.
Huw - what was he like?
TomNine - If you want some fun, mention Louis Theroux to Maria Calo.
Denny K - Andrulla....the greatest place on earth...PENNSYLVANIA!!!
Pamela - I own like 10 bathing suits! I'm a California girl!
Andrulla - Im looking at just getting a responce from the fans Diana, to see whether they would like the idea of watching shows, and not contests...
stacy - denny: to cut up...cardio helps me most but every body is different.
Andrulla - I heard a plane hit there too Denny..
Huw - pam did you like max6?
Harmony - I off to get some food. Speak to you all soon on a better day
TomNine - I drove through Harrisburg yesterday. The road was blocked by a massive puddle.
Huw - no thx t9
stacy - louis is a coward. and i don't like what he had to say.
Diana the Valkyrie - Andrulla, assume the fans say yes.
Huw - bye harmony
Pamela - You know what kind of woman I like huw -sigh-
Denny K - My GF 'spins' and her legas look great.....but yours are on another level
TomNine - Pam, with 10 bathing suits you are overqualified for figure comps.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Harmony, come back soon.
Harmony - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:20pm)
Huw - but think of her with muscles?
stacy - tom: which road?
Denny K - Andrulla....this situation will change the way we live...and the world forever
TomNine - Stacy, I was on I-83 heading south.
Huw - will you be at the arnold classic stacy?
stacy - den: thanks.
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
stacy - huw: more than likely, yes
Andrulla - Then we need to find a couple people that will organize it. I will try to get some contacts interested. It needs effort from a few dedicated folks.. I surely would put some time in.
Clepsydra - Baby, baby, baby you're out of time 10:21pm
Huw - i'm hoping to attend
Pamela - T9!!!! You think so??
stacy - tom: oh. u were just moments away from me then.
Denny K - stacy;; you use the "sled" for your thighs?
Tre' - Pamela - only if it involves flexing those beautiful muscles of yours! The way the NPC does it sucks - all the women do is turn around and show off their implants.
Huw - how do you get on with lindsay mulinazzi stacy?
TomNine - I am vaguely considering organizing some sort of event here in Virginia Beach some day.
Pamela - I don't have implants!
* Huw prefers the natural bathing suit
stacy - huw: i like her. she is very sweet.
Denny K - Tre'....think ONESTI could take Chyna's place?
* Huw prefers the natural bathing suit on a woman that is
Andrulla - Guys, I must run. Im sorry for the sad events in your home today. Godbless your friends and family that suffer because of it.. Take care,and talk to you all soon.
Pamela - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/pics/a/angel_pam/pam00008.jpg
Huw - bye andrulla
Pamela - I'm a natural gal!
TomNine - Stacy, I was thinking about you when I passed the York barbell factory. You should pose for a new sign for them, it would get more attention.
John - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:23pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, John, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Andrulla, good night.
Huw - hello john
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Andrulla, come back soon.
Andrulla - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:24pm)
Clepsydra - ttfn, IronGoddess
Pamela - bye lovely Dru!
Denny K - nite Andrulla
John - Good evening all! I can only stay perhapse a few minutes....
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
stacy - nite andrulla, thanks.
TomNine - John, hello.
stacy - tom: haha...again, they would never 'approve' of me.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, John
Tre' - Damn, look at how fine PAM is!
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - Tre, the world needs a video of Pam admiring someone like Heather D.
John - Hello Stacy I don't think we've met.
Denny K - BBL
John - DENNY! Long time no "see"!
Clepsydra - Face up...make your stand and realise your living in the golden years 10:25pm
Pamela - thank you Tre!
Denny K - John?
Tre' - Tom - already in the works, mate! Mistress Pam is on TOP of things....
Pamela - I AGREE WITH T9!!! THE WORLD DOES NEED THAT!!!
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Denny K - Refresh my memory...John
Huw - pam looking at your gallery i'm surprised you haven't got a pic of you flexing a !
boomer - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:26pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, boomer, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hello, it's the Big Bicep lover
John - Denny, I'm an artist and writer for this site....
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Pamela
boomer - hello again
Huw - hi boomer you home yet?
Denny K - OHHHHH that John!
TomNine - Boomer made it home!
John - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/m/morgalla/index03.htm
Ginny - wb boomer
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
Pamela - there is not a whole lot of to flex huw...........they are 10 inches! !
John - Damn.
Denny K - John...Bad link
boomer - yup, just got home, the ride didnt calm me down at all
John - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/picthumb/m/morgalla/index02.htm
John - THERE we go...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Pamela - Cool art!
boomer - its weird, i'm watching my daily taping of the today show, watching life go on as normal leading up to the attack
Tre' - *sigh* - Pam's biceps are the same size as mine
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Denny K
John - I thank you Pam.
Huw - and then panic yeah boomer?
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Denny K, you have a new Private message from John
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Denny K
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting; five bells on the First Watch 10:30pm
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Pamela - R U serious Tre??
boomer - interesting that today is the 23rd anniversary of the camp david peace accord, i'm sure thats a coincience
Huw - what is the camp david peace accord?
Clepsydra - Denny K, you have a new Private message from John
boomer - my bis are 11", but that includes the flab, not sure how much of that is muscle
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
boomer - camp david was when israel and egypt signed the peace pact
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - oh thx boomer
Pamela - Mine are a solid 10 inches..........
boomer - and it seems that the jetliner that crashed in pennsylvania was headed for camp david
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Pamela
boomer - mine are hard as rock under the flab
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Denny K
Tre' - Pam - yours are probably much more solid than mine
John - As usual, Pam is the popular one...
boomer - forget solid, i'm talking like stone under the flab
Clepsydra - Denny K, you have a new Private message from John
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Denny K
Denny K - Received John...thanks
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
Indiaguy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:35pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Indiaguy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
* John just recently gave relationship advice to a young woman.
John - Turns out an "EX" of her's has come back and asking for another chance.
Huw - hi indiaguy
Indiaguy - Boomer, you safe, i guess . What about Tom9?
John - Hiya Indiaguy.
boomer - hey ig
John - I told her to make him beg!
Pamela - They should be solid..........I TEACH people how to work out for a living!
TomNine - Indie, hey.
John - Well I must go...been nice chatting everybody! Have a wonderful evening!
Clepsydra - John, you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - I somehow survived the attack, Indie.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
* John wants to work out with Pamela...she could turn him into a HUGE ripped muscleman!!! :-)
TomNine - See ya, John.
Ginny - i think I am back
Indiaguy - Hey tom9, great to hear from you ! You are in the Pentagon, i guess ?
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from John
John - Hi Ginny...bye Ginny.
Indiaguy - Did you witness it , tom9 ?
Ginny - ciao John
Indiaguy - Hi, Ginny
Huw - pamela you have new mail
Clepsydra - Cheerio, John, come back soon.
John - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:37pm)
Huw - bye john
Ginny - hi Indi
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
TomNine - Indie, I've never been inside the Pentagon. I moved to southern VA, and I work in a small Navy base, no danger.
Huw - on hi alert now yeah tomnine?
Huw - hi = high
Indiaguy - That's really good to hear , tom9 !
Huw - boomer so it was the egyptians then
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Indiaguy - Tre, you are in NY right ?
boomer - no way of knowing huw
TomNine - The THREATCON is high enough to force me to go home early today, and probably not go in at all tomorrow.
Tre' - Oops - that was supposed to be: Mistress Pam, i bet You could teach me a LOT of things.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Ginny - anyone hear anything about Sf?
Tre' - IG - hey, man - are you ok? No, I'm inPhoenix, AZ now.
Indiaguy - Who knows it may be a group of those disgruntled American war vets like Timothy Macveigh
Huw - i reckon it was some kind of group that was so cautious that no one except the group members knew of it
Indiaguy - Nobody is likely to bomb binghamton and there are no skyscrapers !
-jabber - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:41pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, -jabber, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Twas brillig, and the slithey toves did gyre and gimble.
Huw - jabber you home now?
boomer - what about him ginny
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from gaily
-jabber - Thanks Huw- I've been home all day long - yes...
Huw - ppl amy bomb where i live right outside a RAF camp
Indiaguy - Hi, jabber
Ginny - boomer the city
oriole2k - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:42pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, oriole2k, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - It's one third of FemSport
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - amy=may
Huw - o2 wb
Pamela - Jabber!!!
boomer - fishy works in ct
Huw - is gaily going to join in?
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Huw, you have a new Private message from gaily
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Indiaguy - Is there anyone else who works in the city ?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from gaily
Ginny - which city
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from Huw
Indiaguy - "the city" could only mean NY !
TomNine - The City?
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
-jabber - Anyone spoken to PJ? NYC Ginny - you know that..
Ginny - well to me the city is as well Sf
Huw - so boomer, do you think they will build a new WTC?
Clepsydra - gaily, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Huw - what happened in SF ginny?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from gaily
boomer - who can tell huw, its gonna take weeks to dig out the debris, bigger concerns now than worrying about that
Ginny - nothing except its a city and I have two daughters there and I am a bit concerned
T.K.One for boomer - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:46pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, T.K.One for boomer, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hello, it's the Big Bicep lover
Huw - ok ginny i understand
boomer - hey tko
TomNine - TKO, hello.
Huw - hi tko
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
-jabber - Tre', you still around???
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
oriole2k - Jabber, PJ is fine...
-jabber - TKO, hello
T.K.One for boomer - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
Huw - will you give blood boomer?
T.K.One for boomer -
-jabber - Thanks O2K, he's about the only one I emailed and he hasn't responded yet...
TomNine - Huw, the trend since before Oklahoma City will demand that some sort of memorial be erected at the site of the bombing.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, TKO
Indiaguy - Now, NY is the financial capital of the country and the world and is very densely populated . Hence it was targeted. The pentagon was because it was the seat of power. SF (sorry to hurt your feelings) is not such a symbol. So there is very little likelihood that it could be targetted
boomer - dont know huw, if something is organized i will
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
oriole2k - Well, I lost someone in the flight from Dulles...
Huw - true, then the authorities get the bastards that did this yes?
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
-jabber - I'm sorry to hear that O2K.
Huw - o2, my condolences
Indiaguy - guys, do you think that a group of guys like tim mcveigh may have carried out these attacks ?
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Ginny
T.K.One for boomer - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
-jabber - No I don't, Indiaguy...
Indiaguy - Oh, O2k , sorry !
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Ginny - oh hi tko
Huw - link don't work tko
boomer - i dont ig, this was foreign, no coincidence it happened on the anniversary of the camp david peace accord
T.K.One for boomer - Diana why isn't that drawing uploading ?
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
Diana the Valkyrie - I'll look ...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Huw - has anyone heard form shanice at all today??
oriole2k - That's all right, he's in a better place...
T.K.One for boomer - hello -jabber and Clepsydra and Denny K and Diana the Valkyrie and Ginny and Huw and Indiaguy and Pamela and TomNine and Tre' and boomer and gaily and oriole2k and stacy
Huw - true o2k
TomNine - I hope the investigators haven't ruled out domestic terrorists, but odds are against it.
T.K.One for boomer - thank you Diana
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
-jabber - Agreed T9...
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
boomer - havent heard from shanice in ages, i e-mailed her but she never replied
-jabber - Huw, was shanice in NYC that you are concerned?
Diana the Valkyrie - You gave the wrong link, TKO
B.A. - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 10:51pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, B.A., welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
T.K.One for boomer - I did
Indiaguy - why, tom9 (since i would assume domestic terrorists have better knowledge of the loopholes ) ?
Huw - yeah jabber
boomer - hey ba
-jabber - Anyway, I heard from Steve Scibelli of Awefilms, he and Rowena are fine - but shaken...
TomNine - BA, hello.
B.A. - Hello, everyone!
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Huw - hi ba
Ginny - hi BA
boomer - what fucking loophole ig, what the hell are you talking about
Indiaguy - Hi, BA
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Pamela
Tre' - BA - thank goodness you're ok...how are your loved ones
Diana the Valkyrie - Boomer, you had much weaker security on domestic flights than on international flights
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Huw
T.K.One for boomer - http://www.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
Diana the Valkyrie - I guess that will change now
TomNine - Indie, you don't think many of the guys working airport security are foreigners? They are the guys who know the loopholes best.
Indiaguy - Looholes in the security systems, boomer could be more easily breached by domestic terrorists
T.K.One for boomer -
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Pamela
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
Diana the Valkyrie - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
B.A. - Tre, I'm fine, but I know many people who work in Manhatten who are basically stuck in the city
boomer - ba, are you going on strike?
T.K.One for boomer - correct link, but it's not uploading
Diana the Valkyrie - See, TKO, "chat" not "www"
-jabber - DtV, I just flew to Canada and back - and security wasn't much different going to Canada - strangely they didn't even check my birth certificate...
Tre' - Loopholes? We have OPEN borders and as Tom said, anyone can get a job working airport security. So, four of those people get the x-ray jobs and then 4 guys sneak in on different flights with weapons. A total of 8 people could've pulled this whole thing off.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Diana the Valkyrie - Jabs, in Europe, we have baggage reconciliation, you dn't do that on domestic flights
B.A. - My sister works on Wall St, and had to work about 60 blocks to Grand Central to get a train home
T.K.One for boomer - what happened to the www. that's the way it worked before?
Indiaguy - In any case, too premature to assign responsibility (assuming we can)
boomer - dont delude yourself tre, this was much too well planned and organized
Diana the Valkyrie - I moved the chatroom, TKO
Huw - double that for taking over the plane as well
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Pamela - I'll be right back.......
boomer - ig, be as fucking apologetic as you want, someone is gonna pay for this
T.K.One for boomer - moved the chatroom? Then why did i find the chatroom without any problem ?
-jabber - Actually Tre' there was a report from one flight attendent that other flight attendents were "stabbed" - not saying guns were involved -
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
boomer - they wanted the usa to experience terrorism, to lose our innocence, well congratulations today we did, so no more innocence
B.A. - Some of the parents of our students work in the WTC........this is extemely difficult to deal with
-jabber - DtV, baggage reconciliation is at the end of the trip right? Correct me if I'm wrong, these trips didn't "end" in the usual way.
Huw - pieces of plastic made sharp won't be detected by the metal detectors
Indiaguy - who should i be apologising for, boomer ?
T.K.One for boomer - boomer that drawing was for you..
boomer - obviously the planes were taken over by pilots, no pilot would crash into a building no matter the threat
Tre' - How do we know Diana wasn't involved? She moves her servers just days before the attack? How convenient....
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
-jabber - Yes, Huw - that's it, bone or sharp hard plastic knives - who knows HOW many terrorists were on board???
Huw -
boomer - i dont know ig, but you seem awfully eager to blame this on americans
Diana the Valkyrie - /precog off
boomer - apparently ig americans know the loopholes
Huw - @ tre'
-jabber - Interesting point Tre' - next thing you know, she'll allow 16 year olds on her site and re-write the front page to no longer say it's an adult website...
Indiaguy - No , boomer. i am sorry it sounded that way. But looking at the sophistication of the whole scheme, i thought that a possibility
Huw - wasn't it meant to be the asking day for more money to spend on defense?
T.K.One for boomer - then is chat still typed in near the end of the link Diana ?
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
boomer - cnn showing bombings in afghanistan
Diana the Valkyrie - Jabs, let me know when you want to tell me how to run a web site
Diana the Valkyrie - TKO, it's all the same, just on a different server
T.K.One for boomer - ok thanks D
Huw - -jabber and B.A. and Clepsydra and Denny K and Diana the Valkyrie and Ginny and Indiaguy and Pamela and T.K.One for boomer and TomNine and Tre' and boomer and gaily and oriole2k i am tired now i must go bye
Indiaguy - Bombings in afghanistan ? are you serious ?
T.K.One for boomer - Diana
Diana the Valkyrie - TKO, when you upload a file, it *tells* you the link that you should give
TomNine - The trials surrounding the last WTC bombing revealed a lot about the way these terror cells work. You get maybe eight or ten guys into the country, dedicated but not so fanatical that they can't stay undercover for a while, maybe more than a year. They get some sort of IDs that don't set off any red flags, they take crappy little jobs that may help their mission, like airport security, WTC building maintenance, whatever. They live simply off their earnings, very little overhead.
-jabber - DtV, you're being defensive - Tre' accused you of being involved in terrorism, you say nothing, I accuse you of what you ARE doing, you get defensive.
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting; six bells on the First Watch 11:00pm
Diana the Valkyrie - Jabs, don't be so defensive
-jabber - I'm not, DtV, I've been accused of being a child pornographer and I've lived that bullshit down - so I know how to NOT be too defensive.
Huw - bye all
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
boomer - cya huw
T.K.One for boomer - chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
Indiaguy - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:01pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Indiaguy, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
TomNine - Bye, Huw.
T.K.One for boomer -
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Huw, come back soon.
Huw - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:01pm)
Ginny - cioa huw
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - Later Huw...
Clepsydra - T.K.One for boomer, you have a new Private message from boomer
Clepsydra - oriole2k, you have a new Private message from Tre'
T.K.One for boomer - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/aKneedCR.jpg
T.K.One for boomer -
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from boomer
boomer - give up tko
T.K.One for boomer - damn it, when i fucking had it down, it changes!
T.K.One for boomer -
boomer - it didnt change tko, your doing it wrong
B.A. - bbl
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Cheerio, B.A., come back soon.
B.A. - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:03pm)
Diana the Valkyrie - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
Indiaguy - Boomer, i have got an acquaintance working at the metropolitan club hotel in manhattan. heard of it. I think its quite far from the WTC. Just wanted to verify that
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from boomer
T.K.One for boomer - http://chat.thevalkyrie.com/clubhouse/echat/upload/1aKneedCR.jpg
T.K.One for boomer - =
* Ginny bought a canoe
boomer - the damage was all downtown ig
Diana the Valkyrie - So now you can canoodle?
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from oriole2k
T.K.One for boomer - thanks once again, Diana.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, oriole2k, come back soon.
oriole2k - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:06pm)
Clepsydra - Bye, biscuits
Indiaguy - So it would not have been affected, i guess. I do not know NY that well
Ginny - yes I can be a master canoodler in a week!
Clepsydra - Ginny, you have a new Private message from -jabber
T.K.One for boomer - chicken canoodle soup ?
-jabber - Later O2K
boomer - anything north of the wtc was untouched
Ginny - I even have a canoodler slave!
Indiaguy - thanks, boomer. i have been trying to get him at work all day but could not get through
boomer - trying to phone manhattan today was impossible ig
-jabber - Indiaguy the phone lines were down and flooded - because of folks like you incessantly calling in- surprisingly email has been a good communication method with some folks I reached in NYC.
T.K.One for boomer - the idea of the artppeice boomer, wasn't whether you liked art or not, it was the reason of the little humour applied to it..
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Ginny
Diana the Valkyrie - The phone system was overloaded, but the net was OK
boomer - there was humor to it tko?
Diana the Valkyrie - The phone system wasn't designed for big emergencies, the internet was
-jabber - PM to Ginny: please re-read my past PM slowly if necessary, in little chunks - it makes sense
T.K.One for boomer - yeah the boob that was about to get thumped, and scissored was suppose to be you..
boomer - i wonder if we are bombing afghanistan
NICOLE - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:09pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, NICOLE, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Welcome to the room, Big Bass
NICOLE - someone just bombed Afghanistan
T.K.One for boomer - hello NICOLE!
boomer - hey nicole
Ginny - hi nicole
Indiaguy - What ?
NICOLE - hi all
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Nicole
NICOLE - Colour changed
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - It was on TNT, CNN exclusive Afghanistan was just bombed
NICOLE - Kabul to be exact
Diana the Valkyrie - By who?
-jabber - Shit, I have to turn on the news channel again!
NICOLE - they dont know, it is all specualtion
Indiaguy - Bombing afghanistan is like carrying coals to Newcastle. Its already so bombed out and ruined that bombing is redundant
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from boomer
NICOLE - its not on the news yet, check out TNT, only found it on that channel
Indiaguy - Hi, nicole
T.K.One for boomer - I see an army of invincible Fbb's intelligent agents being called to armed duty, and exacting vengence upon these terrorists, scissorings, and ribbreakings galore/gore!
boomer - cnn has been showing afghanistan for awhile now
NICOLE - news is saying that it might be us retailiating, but they dont know, bin laden, was protected by them so who knows
T.K.One for boomer - ok, i'm sorry, i realize it's serious.
boomer - we dont know that its us bombing afghanistan, they are having a civil war there after all, might be internal
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
boomer - bush is speaking at 9pm, should be interesting
NICOLE - they are saying that too Boomer
-jabber - TKO, I'm ignoring you dude...
Indiaguy - it must be the northern alliance attacking the taliban in that godforsaken land !
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from boomer
T.K.One for boomer - good you do that jabber, cause it really makes no diff to me..
Return of Pam - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:14pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Return of Pam, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Return of Pam - hello people.......
boomer - have to believe that if the usa was retaliating against afghanistan there would be a heck of a lot more explosions
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.One for boomer
NICOLE - they ar now saying it might be internal and not something coming from the west nato or us
T.K.One for boomer - hello pam
T.K.O - Nickname change, T.K.One for boomer is now known as T.K.O
Diana the Valkyrie - There was something in the papers today about a bomb in Afghanistan, happened yesterday
CaptainCorc - Pundit: Could be part of Afghan civil war. CNN correspondent: What civil war?
NICOLE - this is all very scary
boomer - i heard that cap, nothing like an educated newsperson
Indiaguy - Some experts seemto have interpreted certain sayings of nostradamus as saying that 1999-2000 would herald a world war with major upheavals everywhere. guess they were early by a year
NICOLE - did the bombing happen in Kabul?
T.K.O - this is all the signs of the end times!
Diana the Valkyrie - That should really have been "Which civil war"
CaptainCorc - I'll email them that Diana.
T.K.O - Colour changed
wb270 - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:16pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, wb270, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Clepsydra - Hey, it's the man with the List
NICOLE - could this be world war III
T.K.O - pam?
NICOLE - hey wb
TomNine - Bill, hello.
wb270 - hello, everybody.
boomer - hey bill
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
T.K.O - hello 270
-jabber - CaptainCorc and wb270, hello...
CaptainCorc - Hi, wb.
TomNine - "War" as we know it has lost all definition.
NICOLE - they are calling it an amunition dump now?
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, WB
Ginny - hi wb
T.K.O - and CaptC
wb270 - I don't think explosions are that unusual in Kabul
NICOLE - this is all very unsettling
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
CaptainCorc - CNN corespondent: CIA confirms that they think some organization connected with Bin Laden may have been involved.
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
CaptainCorc - This is some classic stuff.
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
NICOLE - I always wished I would never see such tragedy in my lifetime
boomer - this is like living a movie
TomNine - Those CIA boys are open to all possibilities.
Clepsydra - Return of Pam, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - people are being bused to Pentagon, to give a speech
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
Indiaguy - wb270, that's what i said, i think everything that could be levelled in Kabul would have already been levelled
-jabber - I stated it looked like the special effects of "Independence Day" when I saw it...
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
boomer - the second tower imploding was an amazing sight
Hiram D. Damn Walker - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:20pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Hiram D. Damn Walker, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Colour changed
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
CaptainCorc - CIA open to all possibilities and CNN loves confirming a story, Tom. Holy Cow.
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, HDDW
Barbara - logged on. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:20pm)
Clepsydra - Hello, Barbara, welcome to the Coffee Lounge.
NICOLE - how about the third tower falling? 7 world trade center?
boomer - hey hiram
Diana the Valkyrie - Hi, Barbara
Clepsydra - Return of Pam, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Barbara - Hi Folks, Diana
boomer - hello barbara
Ginny - Hi Hiram and Barbara
TomNine - Hiram and Barbara, hello.
NICOLE - 47 floors fell about a half hour ago
Clepsydra - Would you believe in a love at first sight? Yes, I'm certain that it happens all the time. 11:21pm
-jabber - Hiram, how are you doing?
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Hello all. Hope all your friends and family are safe.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Indiaguy - boomer, if it were not for the enormous tragedy , it is so unreal that it seems to have come out of a hollywood movie !
Barbara - Hey Tommy..........
NICOLE - hi Hiram and Barbara
Clepsydra - Pamela, you have a new Private message from T.K.O
-jabber - Barbara, hello - hope all's well with you - missed you in Toronto.
Barbara - Hi Nicole...How's Bob?
Indiaguy - third tower in WTC ?
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Clepsydra - Return of Pam, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - there are the two main towers that ny is famous for but technically there are three towers
Barbara - Hey Jabbs...sorry I didn't get to the show. I was disappointed.
T.K.O - jabber dabber, really blue, seems he's ignoring me, but ask me if i care too..
Clepsydra - Barbara, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - TKO, sorry if I don't find your antics humorous - sue me dude.
T.K.O - hello Barbara
boomer - there are 7 buildings in the wtc, i think 4 of them are destroyed now
NICOLE - 47 floors hit the floor about 45miinutes ago
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Hiram D. Damn Walker - CNN reports explosions in Afgahnistan
T.K.O - ok jabber, i rename you, sue.
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
Diana the Valkyrie - Imagine what folks feel like now, who work in tall buildings
NICOLE - well 7 world trade center just fell
-jabber - Hiram, there's "thought" that it was the US who retaliated in Afghanistan - I "guess" we think it's them? That's all unconfirmed though.
T.K.O - and i wasn't laughing jabber!
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Barbara
NICOLE - US is neither denying or confirming
Return of Pam - later good people..............take care of yourselves.............god bless.......
Indiaguy - gosh boomer, 47 floors coming down !!
-jabber - NICOLE, not denying is "confirming"...
NICOLE - bye Pam
-jabber - You too Pammy - I'll chat with you this evening.
TomNine - See ya, Pam.
Barbara - bye Pam
Hiram D. Damn Walker - be back in 5.....
NICOLE - from what it sounded like on the news is that it will be released in a press conference that will be held at the pentagon
Clepsydra - NICOLE, you have a new Private message from Return of Pam
boomer - ig, the two really big towers are already down, these are the small ones collapsing now
T.K.O - but i don't let the disasters of this life bring me down, so worry over it if you like, but i will live in peace, cya all later!
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Return of Pam, come back soon.
Return of Pam - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:25pm)
Clepsydra - Barbara, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Cheerio, T.K.O, come back soon.
T.K.O - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:26pm)
-jabber - TKO, don't tell me how to live my life and I won't tell you how to live yours.
Indiaguy - To think some visitors may actually have been standing on the top of the WTC !
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Barbara
Clepsydra - boomer, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre'
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from boomer
Clepsydra - Barbara, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - I forgot who but somebody was in here this morning that said that their friend got to work at about 8:45 saw the plane hit the building and he turned himself around, and walked away from people jumping out of the building, or probably being thrown from the explosion
T.K.O - sorry jabber, but i was making a statement about myself, who can direct you ? it would be like leading a stubborn mule to a far off destination! BTW, i wasn't telling you how to live your life, you seem to be in control of that, or should be!
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from -jabber
TomNine - Fistman said that.
NICOLE - why ar TKO and jabber at odds?
NICOLE - yes your right it was fistman
-jabber - TKO, I thought you were leaving?
T.K.O - cause i made a wisecrack, about the terrorist earlier, NICOLE, jabs didn't like.
Barbara - Well, thx anyway for the room offer (it was very much appreciated) and Im glad U arent pissed that I didnt get the chance to call...I feel badly that Sheila didnt get her pro card!
Clepsydra - Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting-ting, Ting; seven bells on the First Watch 11:30pm
-jabber - NICOLE, today is a very sad day in US and world history - I don't take too kindly to too much "levity" - sorry for seeming cranky...
T.K.O - thought wrong, didn't you jabber.
-jabber - @ Barbara's PM
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Barbara
* -jabber kicks his LOL out of his above post.
Tre' - If I hadn't called Rob a "terrorist" last week, maybe this would not have happened.
Hiram D. Damn Walker - back
T.K.O - /whatis levity?
Clepsydra - levity?
TomNine - Rob could not be responsible. He is afraid of flying.
NICOLE - I think we are all beside ourselves today, lets not get on each others nerves.
-jabber - It figures that TKO doesn't even know the meaning of the word. hmmph
Tre' - Barbara - I feel good that Sheila did not get her pro card and hope she'll be encouraged by her placing...encouraged to do something with her bodybuilding where she can be appreciated, not butt-banged by the IFBB
NICOLE - we all handle crisis differently
boomer - its amazing that some can find humor in the fact that thousands of people died today
-jabber - NICOLE, TKO is not responding appropriately - but I appreciate your defense of him.
T.K.O - why would i care jabber to know it's definition, i would rarely use it seeing it wouldn't fit into my rouge type of a lifestyle..
-jabber - boomer, tens of thousands - possibly 42,000 in the WTC alone...
Indiaguy - But one thing i should say, there is very little panic among people and people are quite orderly and the authorities have been quick to react. That's very admirable
boomer - the white house has just announced that the explosions in kabul were not done by the us
-jabber - boomer, maybe they haven't watched CNN yet.
NICOLE - what channel you got Boomer?
Barbara - Tre'...there is always a positive side to everything...Im sure Sheila will use this to her advantage
boomer - americans are a funny lot, we get upset by little crap, but we come together in times of crisis
NICOLE - TNT, I just heard it there
Indiaguy - jabber, it may be something close to 10,000 - 15,000 though that itself is a large figure
boomer - i'm watching cnn
T.K.O - appropriately my ass! well there goes not allowing today's disaster to get me down. there is a jabber present that can do that!
Clepsydra - T.K.O, you have a new Private message from -jabber
NICOLE - news people kicking themselves for whatthey assume']
Hiram D. Damn Walker - If there is any city that can rebound from this, its NYC.
T.K.O - answer that pm, someone ?
boomer - if you turn onto cnn now they are showing the 2nd plane crashing
NICOLE - have you seen how bad NY was hit?
-jabber - Hiram, I commented earlier that it looked like some special effects from the movie "Independence Day" - something I NEVER thought I'd see.
Tre' - they're saying "holy shit" on CNN...and the anchor is saying, "well, it's hard to roll that tape with the expletives"
NICOLE - got it Boomer
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Did you all see it live this morning?
Indiaguy - witneseses say it almost came out the other side . i saw the picture of the 2nd plane plowing right through
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Tre' - Another tape earlier had a girl screaming "what the fuck?"
boomer - that was an amateur video tre, obviously the person filiming it had a human reaction to the devastation, i guess they didnt find it amusing
-jabber - No Hiram - but strangely I got up around 7am central time - a bit earlier than I usually do.
Clepsydra - Time is of the essence 11:36pm
Barbara - As far as Im concerned, this was a total act of war. We are under attack, and I think we haven't seen the end yet. Philly is on alert. They arent sure if schools will be open tomorrow. Everything closed early today. No rush hour.
boomer - i did hiram, but didnt realize what had happened at first
NICOLE - no I was busy trying to figure out why my phone wasnt working, I couldnt sign on, so I was looking for my phone bill, thought maybe I missed paying it
Tre' - Jabber - I was up at 4:30am pacific time...same from here, as I'm rarely up that early
Clepsydra - Hiram D. Damn Walker, you have a new Private message from -jabber
-jabber - I don't trust Ari Fleischer
Diana the Valkyrie - Um, actually it's an act of major terrorism, not an act of war, there's important differences
T.K.O - what pissed me off jabber, and why i really don't fucking care if they go ahead, and blow up this entire nation, is because it postponed my visit with my daughter today, call that selfish, but i really don't give a DAMN, what you think, my daughter means more to me than a thousand people!
-jabber - Um, tell that to the White House DtV...
Clepsydra - "I am not part of the problem. I am a Republican" ....Governor George W. Bush, Jr.
NICOLE - what is the difference Diana?
Diana the Valkyrie - No need, jabs, they already know
-jabber - TKO are we supposed to care?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Hiram D. Damn Walker
Barbara - I understand the difference. I still view it as an act of war.
T.K.O - am i?
Indiaguy - I have to leave , people. Bye and take care
boomer - depends who was behind it diana, if a govt was involved, then it was an act of war, and if some country is harboring the savages behind this, then still an act of war and must be dealt with accordingly
Diana the Valkyrie - Well, for example, when you win a war, you don't execute the enemy soldiers. But when you catch a terrorist, you apply the country's penalty for murder
TomNine - See ya, Indie.
Clepsydra - Hiram D. Damn Walker, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Indiaguy, come back soon.
Indiaguy - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:39pm)
NICOLE - I am very shocked by your selfish and callous statement TKO
NICOLE - I hope you arent serious
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Air Force One is now in Washingon.
Clepsydra - NICOLE, you have a new Private message from -jabber
boomer - if it was bin laden, and the afganis who have sheltered him all this time still show no remorse, then let the whole country get to know allah firsthand
Clepsydra - Time is of the essence 11:40pm
NICOLE - if you are it is a disgusting attitude
T.K.O - yeah well, that's what life does to you, it's sometimes makes you cold, and callused!
TomNine - TKO, aren't you also bothered that the news coverage bumped your favorite cartoons?
boomer - but you do execute the countrys leaders diana
Hiram D. Damn Walker - exactly booms. Carpet bomb them with nukes.
-jabber - @ T9
Barbara - But many of the WWII Nazi officers were eventually brought to trial and executed.
T.K.O - don't watch TV, Tom.
T.K.O - well maybe, Smackdown, and Monday night raw.
-jabber - TKO, if you wanted to visit your daughter - you hop into your Nissan and visit her - don't bitch and complain to us about your inconvenience and expect us to give a crap.
Diana the Valkyrie - Yes, Barbara, but not many, and not for just fighting in the war
Barbara - For crimes against humanity.
Diana the Valkyrie - Right
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Hiram D. Damn Walker
CaptainCorc - You mean the CNN bug bunny hour won't be on?
Clepsydra - Up the Beatles 11:42pm
Clepsydra - Barbara, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Diana the Valkyrie - But the millions of Germans in the army, just went home after the war
NICOLE - Pentagon briefing
T.K.O - i was bitching to you alone jabber, because i had immediately aplogize for making that joke..
NICOLE - problems with the audio
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Barbara
Diana the Valkyrie - TKO, don't let jabber annoy you
NICOLE - Pentagon audio is fixed
T.K.O - but i see you can't read, and damn your such an excellent speller..
boomer - as i said before, if they wanted america to wake up to reality, then consider us woken up, and now being awake, its time for the gloves to come off
Clepsydra - There's a time to live but isn't it strange that as soon as you are born you're dying. 11:43pm
-jabber - There goes DtV, protecting everyone against the -jabber - even though others agree that TKO's attitude sucked.
NICOLE - BRB want to listen to this
T.K.O - don't it always?
Hiram D. Damn Walker - http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/nm/20010911/pl/mdf50659.html
NICOLE - I cant believe they are in the pentagon
Hiram D. Damn Walker - Look at those sick idiots
Barbara - the reason I choose to perceive this as an act of war is because I think congress needs to declare war on the them
Ginny - they look normal
-jabber - Of course we need to know who "the them" is though...
Barbara - of c ourse...and as soon as we know...show NO MERCY
TomNine - If they have any indications that a nation is behind this, there won't have to be a declaration of war to tend to them.
-jabber - Agreed BArbara...
Barbara - none of this...chit chat bull
T.K.O - well it looks like i'm reading a screen font worldwide news report scrolling along the bottom of a CNN live television newscast, so i'll be seeing everyone later.
Barbara - what is TKO's problem?
TomNine - Bye, TKO.
Tre' - TKO - I'm glad that you and your daughter were not visiting the WTC this morning when it was attacked. I'm sure other fathers were there with their little girls and would love to be in your shoes right now.
-jabber - Sorry we're not "amusing" you TKO.
Diana the Valkyrie - Lisa Houston's planning to come back
-jabber - Good point Tre' - there were of course tourists there as well as the MANY who work and conduct business there.
T.K.O - does jabber being present give you a clue Barbara?
wb270 - I think she's dropping the Lisa and just calling herself Houston now
Barbara - Nope, TKO..sorry
Hiram D. Damn Walker - http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010911/us/1000243363terrorist_attacks_nyr125.html
-jabber - TKO, since when did I become your enemy? I just don't think flippancy over what happened today is appropriate, call me silly.
Barbara - Jabber is a good frind of mine. I dont get the attitude with thousands of Americans dying.
Diana the Valkyrie - That should be interesting, WB
wb270 - will it last?
-jabber - Hiram, "one of the most horrifying attacks ever"?
Diana the Valkyrie - I'm not sure what the cause was. I suspect not
-jabber - Thank you Barbara...
T.K.O - flippancy was making some small humour over the terrorist, not over the bombing that took place, because i realize the tragedy, i just wasn't going tolet it ruin that fairly good mood i was in.
Barbara - Will LIsa Houston be in Philly?
Hiram D. Damn Walker - that's what it says, jabs.
-jabber - tolet=toilet?
Hiram D. Damn Walker - http://us.news2.yimg.com/f/42/31/7m/dailynews.yahoo.com/h/p/ap/20010911/us/1000243643terrorist_attacks_xnyr304.html
T.K.O - to let
Barbara - Now Jabbs...be a good little boy!
Tre' - Barbara - yes at the "Gladiator Productions Center" l o l
T.K.O - i see jabber's mind is in the toilet..
T.K.O - shithead !
T.K.O -
Barbara - OK...Now I feel like Im back in the classroom again! (I used to be a teacher)
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Barbara, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - Hiram D. Damn Walker, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from NICOLE
* Diana the Valkyrie offers Barbara the tawse
T.K.O - so Tre', tell me is there really anything i can do for these ppl that suffered this tragedy, other than to just pray for them?
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Barbara
NICOLE - the news shows that there is no traffic in the city, its earie
Clepsydra - NICOLE, you have a new Private message from -jabber
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from Tre'
T.K.O - /whatis tawse?
Clepsydra - tawse?
wb270 - Houston is living in King of Prussia now Barbara
Clepsydra - Tre', you have a new Private message from -jabber
CaptainCorc - I know what a tawse is. I even have a picture of one.
Diana the Valkyrie - TKO, they need blood
Clepsydra - -jabber, you have a new Private message from NICOLE
* T.K.O doesn't have that much blood to go around..
Barbara - I used to use a broom. I'd chase the little brats around the classroom and swat them with it. (really)
NICOLE - TKO isnt offering sympathy so why should he give blood?
Tre' - TKO - no, there is nothing that you can do.
wb270 - I gather that there are long lines to donate blood right now in DC
Barbara - ok wb...thats about 40 mins from me
NICOLE - they are turning people away for blood in NY, the line is 5hours long
NICOLE - and you must have a donor card
TomNine - My blood isn't wanted anymore. I spent too much time in Europe, making me a mad cow threat.
Clepsydra - There's a time and a place for everything 11:58pm
Barbara - WOW Nicole...
NICOLE - they did not expect the turnout for giving blood to be so great
Barbara - Im A ...Maybe I'll call the Red Cross tomorrow and make an appt
Hiram D. Damn Walker - gotta go. bbl
TomNine - King of Prussia, the little city with a big mall and a long name.
Clepsydra - Cheerio, Hiram D. Damn Walker, come back soon.
Hiram D. Damn Walker - logged off. --- (Tue Sep 11 11:59pm)
T.K.O - these family's that remain alive, there is nothing i can do for them, and seeing that they are miles from me, i can only say that i'm sorry for them, and extend my sympathy to them in that mannor, otherwise i can offer no real sympathy, and offering sympaty extends beyond just talking about it.
NICOLE - bye Hiram
Barbara - bye HDDW
-jabber - Take care Hiram...
Barbara - that was A pos
NICOLE - keep telling jokes TKO, that should help you win friends
wb270 - they get all excited when I donate, but I'm not motivated to stand in a long line. my blood always goes to pedes anyhow